Anti social behaviour (a man urinating)

[Nigello]

I'd love to see the state of the houses of some of these folk who think men pissing in public is OK. #grubby

[bawdy-nan]

MrsMcc and thecaptain- there are clearly differing views on this. Personally, I find it pretty disgusting - both the sight in the street and the smell.

I wonder, would you mind letting me know your address (dm me if you'd prefer not to post it in a public forum) and I'll direct the men with weak bladders to your door when I come across them in my street.

Perhaps we could provide a "we love piss here" map?

[Otta]

I don't think anyone has said they actually like people pissing, they've just said it's not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

And Nigello, why would not particul;arly caring about people having a piss mean that a person's house would be grubby? What a stupid thing to say.

At the ed of the day there are two separate issues here as far as I can see.

1. Is it okay for a person to find somewhere discreet to have a wee if they really need to go?

2. Is it okay to pee right on a pavement in front of someone's house or something like that?

For me they are two totally different things. Trying to find a little dark allyway is very different to just getting it out and pissing on someone's front fence.

[Mick Mac]

It seems 10 May was a Saturday, so the bloke had probably been on the beer for the day. Therefore probably not in a position to make as rational a judgement as some people by the time 830 pm came around.

Its not good behaviour, but probably not a regular occurance and probably not something he would do sober.

Why take a photo of him ? are you the wee police? Just accept we all agree that its not good behaviour and turn a blind eye.

[Nigello]

Just accept we all agree that its not good behaviour and turn a blind eye. <<< Welcome to Britain, that's how we do it here. Just keep ourselves to ourselves, whatevs....

[Penguin68]

10 May was a Saturday, so the bloke had probably been on the beer for the day. Therefore probably not in a position to make as rational a judgement as some people by the time 830 pm

Curiously, in the days when I used to drink excessive amounts of liquid (beer or not) it was in pubs, well supplied with WCs. But I have been out all day at the weekend (not on a drinking spree), away from home and office and the facilities therein, and had the need to relieve myself. If I hadn't the time or the inclination to go into a pub for a 'drink' it could be a close run thing before I got home - if I had any distance to travel then a damn close run thing. Unless the culprit is a reckless and intentional open-air 'micturoligist' (doubt that word exists) then I would think it is less likely rather than more that he had been on the beer. Such open air frivolity in my experience tended to occur after kicking-out time- when pub loos were no longer available.

[mako]

Just when I thought this thread couldnt get any more absurd you have a dog walker complaining about the smell of piss. Marley Lane do you make your dogs hold it in until they get home or do you think your dogs piss doesnt smell?

[lane lover]

If a man hanging a pi$$ is the biggest problem in their world, the OP (cella) - and everyone that supports her behaviour - clearly have a privileged life.

[MrsMcC]

Thank you Otta. Nigello my house is clean and even use the toilet. B-N if I saw anyone pissing against anyone's door I'd have something to say but that wasn't the case here.

[MarleyLover]

@ Mako, please make sure you clearly re-read my post. I stated clearly - I do not appreciate seeing men urinating in public - I do not wish to see male genitalia whilst out walking my dog. At no point did I say anything about smells. What makes this thread absurd is comments such as your own.

[Mustard]

So the people who don't see this as a big deal think it's ok to urinate on artwork? How is that discreet?

[mako]

Sorry Marley the point maybe should have been I would also say that i do not appreciate seeing dogs urinating in public and do not wish to see their genitalia out whilst walking. However that would be irrelevant like lots of the posts. No-one likes it, no one wants it in their own garden/fence etc hwoever it isnt a big deal and the op was a ridiculous overreaction, with no attempt to find out why the guy was pissing where he was, instead barracking him, photoing him and then posting about him. The poster could avoid seeing the genetalia by moving along, as i would when your dogs piss and crap everywhere.

[Mustard]

You can see a female dog's genitalia when they have a pee?

[ratty]

This thread is petering out with all this sidetracking about dog minges! Never gonna get on to page 8. Can the op post the picture of the offending nob please?

[Otta]

Mustard Wrote:

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> So the people who don't see this as a big deal

> think it's ok to urinate on artwork? How is that

> discreet?

One man's art is another man's toilet.

But it's clearly not discreet and no one has said it was.

[ianr]

I visited the scene today. I hadn't realised it was there. Here's a photo.

[mako]

Have the police not cordonned off the crime scene yet? I fear they arent taking this seriously enough.

[Mustard]

Otta Wrote:

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> I don't think anyone has said they actually like

> people pissing, they've just said it's not really

> a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

>

> And Nigello, why would not particul;arly caring

> about people having a piss mean that a person's

> house would be grubby? What a stupid thing to

> say.

>

>

> At the ed of the day there are two separate issues

> here as far as I can see.

>

> 1. Is it okay for a person to find somewhere

> discreet to have a wee if they really need to go?

>

> 2. Is it okay to pee right on a pavement in front

> of someone's house or something like that?

>

>

> For me they are two totally different things.

> Trying to find a little dark allyway is very

> different to just getting it out and pissing on

> someone's front fence.

Otta,

You mentioned the word discreet right here.

[Otta]

So what? I've mentioned lots of words in various places, it doesn't mean they relate to this incident. This was obviously not discreet or this thread wouldn't exist.

[mark88]

mako Wrote:

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> Have the police not cordonned off the crime scene

> yet? I fear they arent taking this seriously

> enough.

I think they are now ?..

[LadyDeliah]

Making this into an indecent exposure thing is stupid. If the op had left him to empty his 8 pints of Stella up the wall instead of shouting at him and taking his picture, he wouldn't have waved his willy at her in the first place.

Kind of dumb thing to do to be honest, have a go at a guy with his cock out then get all emotional when you see his cock. It was out before you spoke to him, though probably not facing you, so if you didn't want to see it, probably better not to make him turn around by shouting at him.

Common sense really.

[PokerTime]

The first offence is urinating in a public space.

The second offence (indecent exposure intended to cause harm and/or harassment) is a public order offence.

If damage has been done to the mural or brickwork, that is a criminal damage offence.

Given that the spot overlooks a childrens play area, and the wall he relieved himself on belongs to a restaurant and bar with toilet facilities open at that time of the day, there was no excuse.

Do you say same the thing to women who are flashed at LD? Indecent exposure is indecent exposure no?

[PokerTime]

And just on the photo thing. If someone breaks into a home, they are breaking the law. If you take a photo or take action to help catch them doing it and they retaliate, are you then at fault for trying to get evidence to convict them? It doesn't matter if the incident is burglary or urinating in a public space. BOTH are against the law. Obviously one has more impact than the other, but the principle is the same.

The OP clearly felt on principle that this is behaviour that she wasn't prepared to tolerate. I can understand that. What I don't understand is why some people have to belittle her experience with mockery. It's ok for people to have different levels of sensibility, and it's certainly ok when the law is of the same view.

[Loz]

PokerTime Wrote:

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> And just on the photo thing. If someone breaks into a home, they are breaking the law. If you

> take a photo or take action to help catch them doing it and they retailiate, are you then at

> fault for trying to get evidence to convict them?

If a child was urinating at the same place as this man, and you take a photo of them (including their genitals), how many years will your name be on the sex offenders register?

[PokerTime]

It wasn't a child though Loz. It's not a good analogy.