Rebekah Brooks cleared, Andy Coulson found guilty........

[steveo]

More seriously and on the basis of no knowledge at all, it looks like Coulson has been hung out to dry. He is bound to write a book from Ford Open Prison and I for one will buy it

[Sue]

A good article here (I think).

Rather long but very interesting:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/25/-sp-phone-hacking-trial-rebekah-brooks-rupert-murdoch

[StraferJack]

That'll be same one I posted yesterday them sue?

[Jah Lush]

Nevertheless a superb article, very well written and researched.

[Otta]

Only got round to reading that this morning, and it is very interesting.

Conclusion - If you can afford (or have RM Paying for) a top defence, you're sorted.

[????]

..or if the left doesn't like you you're guilty whatever? :)

[david_carnell]

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> ..or if the left doesn't like you you're guilty

> whatever? :)

Do you not get bored?

[Otta]

Not so sure this one is about left / right.

[????]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> ???? Wrote:

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> > ..or if the left doesn't like you you're guilty

> > whatever? :)

>

> Do you not get bored?

Nope, there's hours of fun in 'liberal' hypocracy

[StraferJack]

"Nope, there's hours of fun in 'liberal' hypocracy"

because that's the real story here

[david_carnell]

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> david_carnell Wrote:

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> > > ..or if the left doesn't like you you're

> guilty

> > > whatever? :)

> >

> > Do you not get bored?

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> Nope, there's hours of fun in 'liberal' hypocracy

Are you typing that wearing a tin foil hat? Have you started referring to NuLiebour?

[????]

I was answering the 'ever get bored' question

[david_carnell]

I know. It was the reference to "liberal hypocracy[sic]" - it's the sort of weird nonsense one reads on the Telegraph and Guido Fawkes comment boards. Along with "libtards".

For all you shriek about being stereotyped you do a damn fine job of it yourself slinging around phrases like that.

I would just think all that indignation is exhausting.

[StraferJack]

"I would just think all that indignation is exhausting."

nah, keeps him young

[Otta]

I just think this is a weird place for it. Or do all right leaning people think she was innocent and all leftys think guilty? Doubt it.

She acted like a cunt and is walking away unscathed. What is liberal about that opinion?

[StraferJack]

" What is liberal about that opinion?"

i agree with you Otta - but for some people, they will have had a peek at the social media they claim to despise, seen some of "the usual names" decry the decision and think "fire up the Guido Fawkes machine, I'm taking her for a spin"

[PokerTime]

Sigh....the decendance in to left/ right rhetoric again - so lazy. People on both the right and left are able to buy influence, if they have connections and enough money. We will never know for sure if a legal team with high connections within a government and the establishment had any influence in determining a not guilty verdict - but one would think, given the nature of the case, it was always going to lead to questions of corruption using a legal team like that.

[????]

Couldn't agee more on the right/left thing sooooooo old skoool. In my mind I am a socially liberal, economically dryish pragmatist. Not left wing or right wing...those are boxes for other people to put themselves in as far as I can see.

I am just always tickled (rather than angry, honest) at the small time hypocracy (sic) and manifest inconsitsencies of many of those (and on the whole I don't mean people on here, honest) that consider themselves 'liberal' and 'progressive'; social media does illustate this splendidly of course, if not i wouldn't bother with it at all :)

[El Pibe]

To be fair to quids i don't think even he thought he was fishing, i think he just said it because its sort of expected of him.

Maybe I'll get a moderator to add a smiling winkey ;)

[StraferJack]

all very interesting - not really the heart of the whole case tho'

[El Pibe]

ooh x post

[DaveR]

I read the Guardian article. Whilst it is unbdoubtedly true that cash buys you better lawyers and better lawyers buy you a more thorough defence, the article also ackowledged that the case against Brooks was weak (she got off) and the case aginst Coulson was strong (he went down). I didn't find that too surprising.

"We will never know for sure if a legal team with high connections within a government and the establishment had any influence in determining a not guilty verdict - but one would think, given the nature of the case, it was always going to lead to questions of corruption using a legal team like that"

I don't understand this at all? What are the connections between the legal team within government? What questions of corruption?

[Otta]

The case was weak because of the passage of time as far as I can tell. So fair enough, she couldn't be proven guilty and walked.

Still annoying though when it is so obvious.

Oh well.

As am aside, I've never put myself in a left / right box either, and I try to be realistic, but I am a pretty bleeding heart so I get called lefty a lot.

[Jah Lush]

DaveR Wrote:

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> "We will never know for sure if a legal team with

> high connections within a government and the

> establishment had any influence in determining a

> not guilty verdict - but one would think, given

> the nature of the case, it was always going to

> lead to questions of corruption using a legal team

> like that"

>

> I don't understand this at all? What are the

> connections between the legal team within

> government? What questions of corruption?

I think the writer was possibly alluding to the fact the Prime Minister's barrister brother headed up the legal chambers that represented Rebecca Brooks.

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