Zeitgeist

[bon3yard]

I cannot recommend this enough. Theres a Movie Player at the bottom of the page which allows you to stream the film for free. I'm not really a conspiracy nut but there are a lot of very interesting observations made within this film and definitely some substantial food for thought.

http://www.espacioalternativo.com/noticias/wp-content/media/zeitgeist2008.jpg

[mockney piers]

Conspiracy theorists have a desperate problem with causality. Just because politicians regularly twist political capital from incidents to their own ends, doesn't necessarily mean they staged them.

Even the infamous Gulf of Tonkin incident wasn't actually staged; nothing happened granted, some nervous navy gunners shot at some fog, and that was leveraged and lied about in order to persuade congress to sign a blank cheque to fund the war, but it wasn't staged.

Pearl Harbour and the Lusitania likewise, though you'd be hard pressed NOT to have gone to war after Pearl Harbour frankly.

Anyway, internet idiocy. A slick presentation and some good juxtaposed images does not a convincing argument make.

[TillieTrotter]

Coincidentally, my daughter's boyfriend has just sent me the link to this on facebook. I haven't got round to watching it yet.

[bon3yard]

I agree with the causality issues and I've always thought it the supreme human achievement that a shadowy coven of miscreants could so thoroughly control humankind and its destiny given the near infinite variables it would have to master to achieve this end. However the opening half hour and its comparisons betweeen the Egyptian legend of Horus and that of Christ were remarkable(although I accept that this is not a particularly recent revelation(scuse the pun)). I found it fascinating and refreshingly free of the hyperbole(stand up Michael Moore) that usually surrounds this kind of documentary. I still its well worth a watch....oh, and its free.

[Huguenot]

Reminded me of the Ipcress Files.

That bloke for the first 5 minutes is interminable. I was so exasperated I wanted to cook up an elaborate plot to go to war with him.

Bad news eh Tillie - it suggest he's another one of the 'believers' who doesn't realise they're swapping one religion for another ;-)

[mockney piers]

If you did find that bit interesting bon3yard, feel free to borrow this off me.

Her history sometimes lacks scrutiny, but there's a lot of really interesting stuff in there, and no mention of astrology!!

[bon3yard]

Yeah, people are so gullible arent they...the idiots!

[mockney piers]

Yeah, you're right....err...or are you just trying to make me believe that, what's your agenda buddy?!?!

[TillieTrotter]

You reckon Hugo, should I not bother watching and just start poisoning her mind against him before she gets in too deep?

[Keef]

I think you can be pretty sure she has her own mind!

Still I hate shite like this.

[TillieTrotter]

I concur with you Keeflet but I must say it's making me want to watch it all the more now.

[Keef]

Keeflet? :-S

x

[TillieTrotter]

I've been playing with my friend Mary Joanna and feeling abit silly. Sorry mate:-$

[Keef]

Ahhh Mary, she's always good for a laugh!

[TillieTrotter]

Oh, you know her too. Lovely lady, we go back many years.;-)

[Moos]

I think 'Keeflet' is sweeeeeeeeet, can we all use it?

[Huguenot]

Keeflet is an excellent shout. Keef will no doubt hate it for the same reason I hate my wife calling me cute when I'm confused.

I wouldn't watch it Tillie because it's so dull you'll start experimenting on your cornea with a fork. It felt like someone saying 'mung' to me a thousand times.

Poisoning young lady's minds about boys requires no such motivation. This craven pursuit is the sport of kings.

[bon3yard]

Hmm, now that would make exciting viewing.

[mockney piers]

This video footage is pretty convincing that it may have all been faked

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk1nA4SdMus

[bon3yard]

Funny. Do you think they could be right?

[mockney piers]

It's pretty convincing, but then I used to think Horace really did go skiing, so I'm probably not the best person to ask.