Ed Warehouse (what's happening?)

[Earl Aelfheah]

Anyone know what's happening to the old Ed Warehouse?

[Louisa]

I heard from a friend on Zenoria Street that Cafe Nero had plans to extend further back creating a larger internal space. Can anyone confirm?

Louisa.

[Seabag]

A local business is taking over

They're nice people and make nice things to stuff your face with

[edhistory]

Planning application 14/AP/4221

[Earl Aelfheah]

Seabag Wrote:

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> A local business is taking over

>

> They're nice people and make nice things to stuff

> your face with

Can you elaborate?

[Earl Aelfheah]

A3 - restaurant or cafe?

[ladyruskin]

http://planningonline.southwark.gov.uk/AcolNetCGI.exe?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=9557573

[Earl Aelfheah]

Am I missing something. Does the planning application give more info than I'm seeing? All I can see is that there is an application for change of use to A3 - restaurant or cafe. Anyone have any detail?

[edhistory]

Building work started.

Old "extract duct" now removed.

[Salsaboy]

Ahhh. The golden arches are making their way to ED.

[????]

Salsaboy Wrote:

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> Ahhh. The golden arches are making their way to

> ED.

2/10, needs work

[Michael Palaeologus]

Perhaps the lap-dancing club that we all crave?

Logical, given that every other facet of Shoreditch life has made its way here.

[Salsaboy]

Maybe, but I'm Loving It.

???? Wrote:

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> Salsaboy Wrote:

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> > Ahhh. The golden arches are making their way to

> > ED.

>

> 2/10, needs work

[Seabag]

Food related retail business, with cafe

Nice people, with high craft skills

You may well have eaten thier product

Voted the best in London, not so long ago

[Earl Aelfheah]

Can you not just tell us who? I would have thought they'd welcome the publicity.

[Seabag]

Ok, it's going to be a rare species BBQ joint

Zebra, Lions and tigers (in season of course) and foraged leaves from the Peckham Forage Co

[rch]

If we keep our eye on the link in ladyruskin's post, all the details will appear in due course once the application has been processed (might take a couple of weeks).

From a resident's perspective, although the new owners might be nice people, the change of use to A3 will inevitably open up the possibility of a restaurant with late-night operation in the future if the property is sold on.

One way around addressing this is for residents to request that a planning condition be required for last orders to be set at 10pm with a closing time of 11pm. This will at least restrict the operational hours of what ever ends up there with a view of protecting the amenity of the surrounding neighbourhood. Any future business who wanted to operate beyond those hours would have to reapply for planning permission which in turn would trigger a consultation.

[edhistory]

rch Wrote:

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> If we keep our eye on the link in ladyruskin's

> post, all the details will appear in due course

> once the application has been processed (might

> take a couple of weeks).

Will this be before the building work now underway is completed?

[rch]

I don't know the specifics of this site, but they don't need planning permission to build, it's more for change of use to A1/A3. So my guess is that the planning application will run in tandem with the building works but they can't operate as A3 until they have planning permission, which can take up to 2-3 months as there will have to be a consultation period. Will be interesting to see if they're open by Christmas, although they can operate as retail in the first instance without change of use. The way a cafe operates as retail is that the customer has to order and pay at the till rather than having a waitress come to the table, this is exactly how Gail's operates in the Village.

[edhistory]

21 Lordship Lane needed planning permission for a new "extract duct".

[edhistory]

rch Wrote:

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> The way a cafe operates as retail

> is that the customer has to order and pay at the

> till rather than having a waitress come to the

> table, this is exactly how Gail's operates in the

> Village.

Has the legislation changed?

The Town and Country Planning (Use Classes) Order 1987

SCHEDULE

PART A

Class A1. Shops

Use for all or any of the following purposes?

(a)for the retail sale of goods other than hot food,

(d)for the sale of sandwiches or other cold food for consumption off the premises

Class A3.

Food and drink

Use for the sale of food or drink for consumption on the premises or of hot food for consumption off the premises.

[Hemel]

Prompted by rch's post, is it actually another Gail's?

[Seabag]

Hemel Wrote:

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> Prompted by rch's post, is it actually another

> Gail's?

No, not Gail's

[edhistory]

A bakery would also need a change to B1 business use.

[Zenoria]

Seabag and ladyruskin, I understand you're being careful with privileged information, but I don't suppose you could tell us whether it's the kind of place that's open late?