Are there any academics on the EDF?

[uncleglen]

Misteak would be from the fagin school of street smarts I suppose.

[Davis]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Which Meaning of Academic are we relating to here.

> ?

>

> 1. Relating to institutionalized education and

> scholarship, especially at a college or

> university.

>

> 2. Relating to studies that rely on reading and

> involve abstract thought rather than being

> primarily practical or technical.

>

> 3. Having little practical use or value, as by

> being overly detailed, unengaging, or

> theoretical.

>

> 4. Having no important consequence or relevancy:

>

> DulwichFox

By 'academics' I meant people teaching, studying or researching in higher education or anyone with an interest in academia.

[missteak]

Them so called academics ain't able to cope wiv the world outside there books and there clever posh mates with degrees and stuff.

PS I don'tuderstand about wot yer books and ritin is about but it does smell like summit that forrener chompsky has already done

[aquarius moon]

Davis Wrote:

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>

> Robert Poste's Child, I came to this forum in the

> hope of having a number of good discussions but I

> am beginning to feel this may be unachievable. In

> short I feel I have received quite a hostile

> response from established users as well as new

> ones.

How would you even know the difference between established users and new ones unless you are an established user?

[missteak]

Davis Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Which Meaning of Academic are we relating to

> here.

> > ?

> >

> > 1. Relating to institutionalized education and

> > scholarship, especially at a college or

> > university.

> >

> > 2. Relating to studies that rely on reading and

> > involve abstract thought rather than being

> > primarily practical or technical.

> >

> > 3. Having little practical use or value, as by

> > being overly detailed, unengaging, or

> > theoretical.

> >

> > 4. Having no important consequence or

> relevancy:

> >

> > DulwichFox

>

> By 'academics' I meant people teaching, studying

> or researching in higher education or anyone with

> an interest in academia.

Or "wankers" as they are commonly known

[Davis]

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[missteak]

Yes,that shark has definitely been jumped.

[sheilarose]

Cursory.

I thought the post about the dog was good.

[LadyDeliah]

Davis, don't give up. The EDF has become really boring because the same people jump on new comers and most of the interesting posters have left.

I don't bother with it much any more because it's full of crap mostly nowadays, but your posts have been quite interesting so far and when the idiots get off your back and leave you to post in peace, I'm sure you will find others will engage.

[Seabag]

missteak Wrote:

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> Thses boffins with letters after there names

> should try a real job sometime. No one never

> learned nothing from no teacher

I'm getting a 'wiff' of Russel Brand here

:)

[uncleglen]

My sister always maintains that when it comes to helping around the house men only see what they want to see

[missteak]

Confession time

I am Davis posting under another account in order to troll the forum. I will not post on this account any more.

Thank you .

[Davis]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

'Davis, don't give up. The EDF has become really boring because the same people jump on new comers and most of the interesting posters have left.

I don't bother with it much any more because it's full of crap mostly nowadays, but your posts have been quite interesting so far and when the idiots get off your back and leave you to post in peace, I'm sure you will find others will engage.'

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Thank you for the kind words and the positive feedback.

It does seem that some members have adopted a very aggressive and patronising culture and are thus unable to engage with ideas but rather resort to insult and slander. I am sure they have their reasons (social, cultural, economic, past trauma etc..) but I just wonder if this is representative of their 'off-line' behaviour?

[Rocky742]

Davis Wrote:

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> LadyDeliah Wrote:

>

> 'Davis, don't give up. The EDF has become really

> boring because the same people jump on new comers

> and most of the interesting posters have left.

>

> I don't bother with it much any more because it's

> full of crap mostly nowadays, but your posts have

> been quite interesting so far and when the idiots

> get off your back and leave you to post in peace,

> I'm sure you will find others will engage.'

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----------

>

> Thank you for the kind words and the positive

> feedback.

>

> It does seem that some members have adopted a very

> aggressive and patronising culture and are thus

> unable to engage with ideas but rather resort to

> insult and slander. I am sure they have their

> reasons (social, cultural, economic, past trauma

> etc..) but I just wonder if this is representative

> of their 'off-line' behaviour?

Are either of you AOB, AOG, JAGS or DC?

[DulwichFox]

I would not consider this place as the best place for Academia.

From my earlier question on the meaning of Academic :-

'Having no important consequence or relevancy' would seem to fit the bill.

Most people here are mainly concerned with the merits of Pizza, Croissants or Coffee.

Any attempt to strike up any debate on anything more meaningful is likely to be met with contempt.

DulwichFox

[Alan Medic]

That's BS Foxy. The 'Is there a God' thread in the Drawing Room (RIP) sparked plenty of debate as I'm sure many other threads did too. Though I'm not an academic I like a good discussion and I may even find it entertaining to take a stance on a subject I don't actually agree with to see where it goes.

Maybe I'm a troll?

[aquarius moon]

Genuine academics are fine providing they don't use big words that I can't understand :)

[Davis]

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[Otta]

Davis Wrote:

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> I am sure they have their reasons (social, cultural, economic, past trauma etc..)

Best line so far.

[aquarius moon]

Davis Wrote:

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> Also the subjects I write the most

> on are related to conflicts and the

> misrepresentation of Subaltern groups (groups who

> are voiceless and outside hegemonic power

> structures). As I mentioned my area of research is

> the political manipulation of translation.

>

>

No Otta, this is the best line so far. All makes so much more sense to me now!

[Blah Blah]

'why are the RAF men who fire bombed Dresden and Hamburg considered heroes while the 7/7 bombers are considered terrorists?'

You are not comparing like for like there. The contexts are entirely different and context is extremely important. The former an act of all out war between nations throwing everything at each other. The latter, an act in isolation. A better comparison would be with any battle in Vietnam.

Terrorism is so called because it's the method of groups without armies, designed to strike disproportionate fear, hence the term, and also hence why it never succeeds as a method in itself. So an appropriate use of the word for the 7/7 bombers.

[missteak]

Its all in the tell innit.

Hegemony ffs

You just need dialectics and paradigm for the set. you are a true academic, then I pity the poor fools who have to listen to your uninspired monotone. If you are reduced to intellectual chest beating and cock waving on a feckin local forum. Then the education system is more broken than the cherry tree.

Yer peers must be shitting themselves about their career trajectory when they are up against a behemoth with such rigour who needs to patronise ( in both sense ) a local feckin board where the closure of a scabby deli proved to be the apex of Cartesian meandering.

Innit.

[Alan Medic]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> 'why are the RAF men who fire bombed Dresden and

> Hamburg considered heroes while the 7/7 bombers

> are considered terrorists?'

>

> You are not comparing like for like there. The

> contexts are entirely different and context is

> extremely important. The former an act of all out

> war between nations throwing everything at each

> other. The latter, an act in isolation. A better

> comparison would be with any battle in Vietnam.

>

> Terrorism is so called because it's the method of

> groups without armies, designed to strike

> disproportionate fear, hence the term, and also

> hence why it never succeeds as a method in itself.

> So an appropriate use of the word for the 7/7

> bombers.

Without so called terrorists the Irish republic wouldn't exist now.

[Blah Blah]

That's a bit simplistic Alan, but even there, terrorism didn't achieve what it set out to do. Ultimately opposing sides have to talk to each other and find a middle ground they can both live with.

[El Pibe]

"Without so called terrorists the Irish republic wouldn't exist now."

That's quite a statement given home rule would have appeared soon after WW1 and there's no way independence wouldn't have come after the dissolution of empire.

It may have taken a couple of years longer, it may have come quicker; shooting at people tends to harden resolve, at least in the short term. Hard to say really.