Mick Mac Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Was 13 9 this Monday morning, so all going ok despite the visit to Ireland at the weekend. Keep it up chaps/chapesses. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-815862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Wow, twelve pounds, Mick Mac! That's amazing - you're almost halfway there already. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-815886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 PS: typed the above while eating peanut butter with a spoon. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-815887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'm eating a carrot. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-815902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Rub it in why don't you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-815907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrackersMaracas Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 katanita Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Out of interest, did anyone take up my suggestion> of trying My Fitness Pal? I'm not on commission or> anything, promise, I just think it's really> brilliant.I have! Think it's pretty good but I wonder how good the exercise function is? For example- I've just been to the pool and had a 45 min swim. According to the app, that's over 700 calories! I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth but that's more than running! I am also finding out to my great dismay there are many more calories in shortcrust pastry than I would like... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-815918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katanita Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Yeah the general consensus on mfp exercise calories is that they are over generous and you should only eat back about 50-75% of them. If you are syncing it with a tracking app that's better but for swimming does that even exist? My moment of horror was logging half a tub of taramasalata, which I love, might as well have eaten half a tub of pure lard. Ruined for me now. KrackersMaracas Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> katanita Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Out of interest, did anyone take up my> suggestion> > of trying My Fitness Pal? I'm not on commission> or> > anything, promise, I just think it's really> > brilliant.> > > I have! Think it's pretty good but I wonder how> good the exercise function is? For example- I've> just been to the pool and had a 45 min swim.> According to the app, that's over 700 calories!> I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth but> that's more than running! I am also finding out to> my great dismay there are many more calories in> shortcrust pastry than I would like... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-815928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeliah Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I weighed in at 84.5kg on Sunday and started a reduced carb diet and more exercise (I'd been slacking a bit of late) and I weighed 82.3 this morning.I had to go into work early for the BT guy (been waiting since 6th November for a line) so cooked chicken and veg for my breakfast (I made sure we had a hob when we built the kitchen :-D). Tasted gorgeous.I'm going to stock up on protein and veg in the office so I can cook low carb food and force myself to do at least 3 heavy training sessions per week, plus my usual cycling about the place and see if I can't get my flat stomach and toned muscles back Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-815986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeliah Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 katanita Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Maybe have misread, but yes, fat will make you> fat, as will carbs, or protein, any form of> calories, if you eat more than you burn off> overall. It really is that simple. GI etc only> really that relevant if you need to worry about> blood sugar levels. > > Other than that the macronutrient> (carb/protein/fat) balance is much much less> relevant for weight loss. More protein/fat will> probably help you feel fuller, which can help, but> apart from that, it's calories out vs calories in> all the way. (If you are exercising, looking to> keep lean muscle mass, etc, then the macronutrient> balance has more relevance, you need carbs for> energy, and a significant protein intake +> strength training to keep muscle. Still need fat> for other functions too. So it's a balance. I aim> for a ratio of 40:30:30 carbs:protein:fat)This is actually not true. Counting calories is totally misleading. Burning something in oxygen to get it's calorific value, bears no resemblance to the breakdown of that same substance by the body. The chemical breakdown of fat and glucose are different and the reaction of the body to each is totally different. High levels of glucose from carbs causes the body to produce high levels of insulin, which then act to remove the glucose from the blood and store it directly as fat. After years of subjecting your body to high levels of carbohydrate, your insulin response can result in extreme fatigue after consumption of carbs and eventually to insulin desensitivity and diabetes.Fat does not have the same effect on the body. It takes energy to break down (unlike most carbs) and the release of energy is slower and doesn't cause the damaging high insulin response that carbs do.Add to that the fact that the hunger response is switched off by eating fat, not carbs and you can see why reducing carbs and increasing fat intake can actually help you lose weight.Calorie counting has been totally discredited. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-815998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katanita Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I mentioned the impact on satiety of fats and protein in particular, which I think is probably a significant factor. But for the rest, calorie counting has not at all been discredited, lots of people find it very effective (I certainly did, my diet has not been remotely low carb, but has been fairly low fat, have mostly just followed the calories religiously, and lost weight at pretty much the rate predicted). I doubt I'll change your mind though, no matter what study I could dig up, or links to all the calorie counting success stories out there. My understanding is that the impact of particular macronutrients on the body in terms of fat storage isn't brilliantly understood anyway, it's very hard to do good science on this, so not sure it's possible to be so certain either way. It would be lovely if high fat diets were great for you, though, which is why I think that idea is so persuasive. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-816001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmah Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I've been using My Fitness Pal since October and it is really good as long as you are honest with it.It will find out your weak spot, for me it was denial about how many chocolate digestives I ate. I linked mine with Endomondo which tracks activity and you get a really clear picture of what you're doing right and what's wrong. There's also an email they send out which is surprisingly interesting (not the usual spam) different exercises and recipies Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-816109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 Apart from weight loss, with the money I have saved not drinking this month, I am going to buy a house in the village. Non drinking finishes Friday, going out for dinner and drinks :) woohoo. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 13 stone 2.4 lbs this morning. If I turn sideways you might miss me. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Apart from weight loss, with the money I have> saved not drinking this month, I am going to buy a> house in the village. > > Non drinking finishes Friday, going out for dinner> and drinks :) woohoo.So that will be Thursday 29th of Jan then that yous stop stopping what happened to the rest of the month? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help-Ma-Boab Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Im making no progress. MUST be my age. Must meet you over the 6N's MM and you can let me into the secret of your success! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Nah not age, I'm doing the 5:2 having realised I was resembling an elephant, and I've lost around half a stone in three weeks.Probably a large percentage of water, but still, I'm quite chuffed.Haven't completely given up alcohol, but drinking a lot less than I was :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 ???? Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Mick Mac Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Apart from weight loss, with the money I have> > saved not drinking this month, I am going to buy> a> > house in the village. > > > > Non drinking finishes Friday, going out for> dinner> > and drinks :) woohoo.> > > So that will be Thursday 29th of Jan then that> yous stop stopping what happened to the rest of> the month?Inclusive non drinking days from Sunday 4rd January to Thursday 29 January with one night off is 26 days less 1 is 25 days. I'm v pleased with that as its more than I have done for a while. I was in Ireland until the 2nd and in Ireland on the 15th. So I haven't had a drink in England this year :)Being as its being coupled with a diet which means no treats of food or drink variety I'm sitting back admiring my self control. I'm over the moon and cant wait for the weekend. if you don't like it you can stick it. :) I sometimes wish you were as happy and relaxed (and slim) as me Quids. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbers Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 katanita Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Out of interest, did anyone take up my suggestion> of trying My Fitness Pal? I'm not on commission or> anything, promise, I just think it's really> brilliant.I started using it after you suggested it katanita and although I think it has been an eye-epener (e.g. one day I thought I had eaten hardly anything and been really good, it told me I was almost at my full allowance of calories - eeks). I like how it tells you whether you have met your protein, fat allowances etc. The only thing I dislike about it is having to fill it in every day (lazy of me I know but I find that it a chore). I get all enthusiastic at first and then I can't be arsed later on as the drudgery of the week takes hold. Maybe I just need to be more strict with myself about it to help achieve my goals.My favourite app is Weighbot by tapbots (same people who developed tweetbot). I like the simplicity of it. Very motivating to see those graphs on a downward trajectory. PS well done mick you are doing really well only one complaint really, your posts aren't as funny anymore. the price we pay eh? ;) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yes Numbers, humour was also banned for January. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I'm completely failing to make any progress. Had to fend off unwelcome advances yesterday and by the time I got home I was so cross I compounded it with ice cream. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 "aren't as funny," doesn't mean they were side spliitingly good before Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Robert Poste's Child Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I'm completely failing to make any progress. Had> to fend off unwelcome advances yesterday that's a nice problem to have. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 ???? Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> "aren't as funny," doesn't mean they were side> spliitingly good beforeThis is cyber bullying. I'm taking a forum vacation. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Robert Poste's Child Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > I'm completely failing to make any progress.> Had> > to fend off unwelcome advances yesterday > > > that's a nice problem to have.Not really. It's frustrating when you've said no in all the ways you can think of, thought they'd got it and then find out they didn't. It's only a nice problem if you fancy them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 100.Eat shit Quids. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/52929-new-year-fat-attack-147-to-127-in-two-months/page/4/#findComment-818728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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