Ched Evans situation

[JohnL]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9636345/sky-sources-oldham-deal-to-sign-ched-evans-is-off

Not sure who 'Sky Sources' are but ...

[Otta]

Yep, latest on beeb

"Oldham pull out of Evans deal

Posted at 11:55

"Oldham board member tells us deal to sign Ched Evans is OFF due to 'enormous pressure from sponsors and threats to staff and their families.'"

"Threats to staff and their families"? I mean FFS!

Reminds me of when Judy Finnigan semi supported him (by saying it wasn't a violent rape). People were so upset by that that they did what? That's right, they threatened to rape her daughter.

We live in a country with a scarily large number of really really really feckin stupid people.

I'm no supporter of Evans, but stories like this make me start to want a club to gamble on him.

[????]

Anyway, I look forward to the certain and moral consensus displayed on this thread applied to Polanski and Assagne...

(...not holding my breath remembering previous threads on them)

[StraferJack]

That's a rather glib and uncalled for response quids (apologies otta for confusing the names - I should have known better)

I've already alluded to the 70s in my posts (coupled with the fact that in the Polanski case it's been going on for decades and has the victim saying she doesn't wish to prosecute)

I don't recall Assange being tried so can't really comment on the outcome of that case

Not sure how much room there is for shit-stirring these days

[red devil]

Otta Wrote:

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> We live in a country with a scarily large number

> of really really really feckin stupid people.

We always have, difference being that these days they have a voice through social media...and anonymity.

> I'm no supporter of Evans, but stories like this

> make me start to want a club to gamble on him.

Really?...

[JohnL]

I think he's going to have to show remorse and contrition if this accelerated 'appeal' goes nowhere.

[DulwichFox]

Jan 08, 2015 12:32 Ched Evans to Oldham deal OFF

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/live-ched-evans-set-sign-4939643

DulwichFox

[JohnL]

What sort of quote is that from Harry - is it computer generated ?

The R's boss said: "I think it's about getting a second chance in life. It's very difficult, people make mistakes, dreadful mistakes in life, but people go in prison or whatever they do, whether you've murdered someone or whatever, unfortunately a lot of them come out."

[Otta]

red devil Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > I'm no supporter of Evans, but stories like

> this make me start to want a club to gamble on him.

>

> Really?...

Well no, not really I suppose. But I do hope that any dick head who has threatened anyone's family gets their collar felt.

[StraferJack]

I have no reason to doubt threats were made by some supporters (after all isn't it one of the reasons Stevie G stayed at Liverpool back in the day?) and two wrongs don't make a right

But equally I suspect some spin in including that as one of the reasons when really it's money and the ongoing damage to their reputation

[Otta]

No doubt that plays a part, but when you read "A club director told BBC sports editor Dan Roan that a staff member was told a named relative would be raped if the deal went ahead." it makes you (well me anyway) feel pretty sick.

[StraferJack]

Yup - it's a terrible world

Now imagine how many of those kinds of messages the victim has been receiving in the last few weeks and wonder why Evans hasn't said anything to ask people to stop it

Basically anyone in the public eye (but especially women) get these threats All The Time

[Otta]

Yeah I get that (but thanks for clueing me in).

The point is that I would rather the club just say "we've decided not to sign him". Saying "we're not signing him because threats have been made" basiocally tells the world "you can get your way, just make threats of violence".

[StraferJack]

do you think that IS why they have caved in? Because I don't

[Otta]

Jesus Christ.

NO!!!

But blaming it on that is sending out a really bad message.

[El Pibe]

bloody cliques

[StraferJack]

Oops. Fair enough. Agreed

[Loz]

So it looks like the mob has won. And, unsurprisingly, the world is not brighter a place.

In fact, given the reports of threats and intimidation, it just seems a little worse.

[Alan Medic]

I can't help thinking that if someone is found guilty but still appeals his conviction, then there is a possibility of a miscarriage of justice. Otherwise what would the point be? Doesn't seem like anyone else thinks that way on here though.

[El Pibe]

Well, that's rather *why* there's an appeals process isn't it?

Though (and im REALLY no expoert) doesn't it have to be based on new evidence, else its just a retrial.

Having read the linked judge's summary this hardly looks like someone's been fitted up, or a shocking lapse by the jury. Noone's really arguing the events themselves, just that bit of legal grey area between crime and not.

[DulwichFox]

Rolf Harris is paying the price for His crimes..

One day he will be released. 'Having served His Time'

Can't see him being invited back to the Glastonbury Stage. or topping the bill at the London Palladium.

Same applies.

DulwichFox

[????]

Polanski still gets to make critically acclaimed films tho

[red devil]

An apology of sorts..http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30727380

[red devil]

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> Polanski still gets to make critically acclaimed

> films tho

You have to admit it Quids, he was useless at Arsenal...

[Robert Poste's Child]

Now Oldham's pulled out, a likely next step for Ched Evans if he still refuses to acknowledge any responsibility could be reputation rehab via a Martin Bashir style stage-managed confessional, or the more usual route of a celebrity reality show, to humanise him and gain sympathy.