VintageSlumber Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 @Bloogsy08 - great to get it reported, so police are more vigilant in the area.I think I'll still pop up to Dulwich library tomorrow to have a chat with the 'Safer Neighbourhood' team, even though the police now know about it. Can't harm to do so. Good to hear from anyone else who may encounter this guy tonight? Cheers Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-832301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 haven't come across this chap myself, although do know the bloke sitting by the bike lockers by the train station. he always seems quite polite, never seen him kick off. some beggars are undoubtedly rogues and give the others a bad name, but a lot of the others are genuinely in a bad way and despite hostels, the big issue and various cash strapped charities, could do with some human contact. Buy the big issue magazine if you never have, I think it's a good way to tackle homelessness and poverty and also a exceptionally great read. I'd prefer not to give money to beggars but occasionally do. a grey area... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-832311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grace3 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Just do what the 'honurable guards' do in Dublin, pepper spray the low lfes whilst they sleep in door ways. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-832319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex K Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Semi-ginger, bird's-nest beard? Bit different from the OP's description. But. One never knows. I've never harvested more than a "God bless you" from the ED station bloke after a "Sorry, no".TD Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> There's a guy outside East Dulwich station> everyday at about 6pm. He sits outside the bike> lockers. He starts off with a polite request but> if you don't give anything he becomes abusive. Not> sure if it's the same guy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-832343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 He also approached me tonight - clearly just after he'd been on Glengarry Rd. I was walking up Hillsboro Rd at 6.50 and when he started on his spiel I said, 'No,' and he started f'ing and blinding. He then headed off round the corner and onto Townley Rd towards Lordship Lane. I called 101 and reported it and they said they'd probably send a car to cruise round loking for him. I was tempted to call 999 as I suspect he might get more agitated and aggressive. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-832349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 He's lucky that we are so civilised around here Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-832374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 There used to be a chap who would park himself down next to you outside the EDT and tell you he'd just been shot and stabbed until you gave him a fag. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-832495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help-Ma-Boab Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I've moved to Beckenham now Otta.Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> There used to be a chap who would park himself> down next to you outside the EDT and tell you he'd> just been shot and stabbed until you gave him a> fag. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-832523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerevolution Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I've seen the guy outside of ED Station and a simple "Sorry pal, no shrapnel on me" has always resulted on "Cheers anyway" but if I do have shrapnel I've given be it only 10p worth-we don't carry it anymore Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-832976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slocky Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Ive encountered him twice on Matham Grove. The first time, just over a week ago, i had the hostel story and gave him a couple of quid. The 2nd time was Monday evening. When he started the story again I told him i wasnt falling for it twice and kept walking briskly. He started shouting and swearing and I didnt hang around. He does seem a bit unhinged and I would be cautious if you see him. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-832924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugglesworth Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I've met the arm-gash guy several times, around Holborn. The story was he'd been knocked off his bike (although no bike to be seen) and wanted a taxi to Homerton Hospital. The gash may have been stage make-up but he may be self-harming - on one occasion, it did appear scabbed over so did not align with his bike accident story. Once I told him: "You told me that story last week". He just said "OK" and moved on to the next punter. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-833255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newboots Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I gave money to an arm gash guy in Camden more than 20 years ago. I sincerely hope its not the same person. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-833272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toldyouso Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Yep I have encountered him outside DKH school last week. Same story but I think it was a different church he mentioned. When he finally got round to asking for money and I refused he simply turned on his heels and headed off in a huff. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-833585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDR Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I haven't met this guy but hope he doesn't put people off being pleasant to others in need. I occasionally buy sandwiches for obviously homeless folk who sit outside Aldi in Catford as I often pick up my shopping. I only do it for those that are pleasant though. I never used to, but watching one guy struggling with his bags of medication he'd just collected made me, he told me what he needed was water to take his tablets with.... Fingers crossed the one you've talked about will move on soon Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-834094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I saw a homeless guy looking at a cheap burger someone had brought him with disgust yesterday (Holborn way).Why have the numbers increased so much recently - is it sanctioning of benefits ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-834154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushhour72 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 He is still there outside East Dulwich station. Be aware he targets elderly people, I had to intervene when he preceeded to follow an elderly chap after he refused to give them money. The elderly gentleman was quite shaken, so please be aware. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-859312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodd Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 crack head or skaghead or maybe just maybe mental healh problems or drug problems so many caring people in ED Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-859336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pommie Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 he probably receives enough benefits to survive! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-859367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodd Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 you think so pommie or do you know,really nice touch missmadmoo giggles love ED people Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-859373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Mike - yes quite possibly the guy needs help, but at the same time nobody likes feeling threatened... the concerns are legitimate. People need to make a stand and not give into his bullying. Show him his tactics do not work. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-859382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamNicola Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Agree it sounds intimidating but also agree with Mike he might have mental health issues and need help. So perhaps he cannnot rationalise the success or otherwise of his 'tactics'. For example the fact that he shouted at someone who did give him money as well as all those who didn't seems a bit odd, no? Sadly funding for mental health care is not what it should be. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-859398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 No it's not, but Jeremy is spot on that mental health or not, people have a right to say they're intimidated by intimidating behaviour.There was a big chap who punched a few people by the CPT a few years back. He thought I was the devil because I was wearing a black hat.Clearly the guy was not well, and everyone realised that, but it still would have hurt (a lot) if he'd caught you with a punch. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-859444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeadyBoo Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 A guy asking for money smashed a front window on Landells Road a few days ago. My friend was an eye witness and has just this morning mentioned this incident but I don't have any more details or a description. Could possibly be the same guy so worth reporting if you encounter him. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-859527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodd Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I think more money should be spend on mental health problems but some of the comments on here are so stupid and so bad mannered just because you are in a right frame of mind doe,s not give you a right to laugh and ridicule people Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-859720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 No-one's laughing or ridiculing, as far as I can see. But someone threatening violence needs to be dealt with on that basis first and foremost. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/55576-guy-asking-for-money-then-getting-aggressive-near-sainsburys-on-lordship-lane/page/2/#findComment-859730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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