Quids Said - would you do it?

[Xena Worried prince]

To be honest, who cares, whom ever gets into power next time will be accepting the poisoned chalice of trying to recover the economy, and they will either succeed (either by luck or other global initiatives) or fail, but either way the cost to the ordinary man, woman and child in the streets will be high enough to ensure that they won't vote for them again for a long time.

To be honest, whom I vote for when the elections eventually get declared depends on who has the most robust plan to get Britain back onto our feet and make us Great again.

[david_carnell]

We allow you to vote Brendan. Good grief, does the Queen know about this?

Piers, I won't bother to engage you on this, not because I don't enjoy our little t?te-a-t?tes but because we both know and respect each other too well to think it'll make a blind bit of difference. And it'll bore everyone else rigid!

[Brendan]

Well South Africa doesn?t let me vote so it?s nice that someone does.

[mockney piers]

Very true D_C :)

Mind you this "Even this shagsack of Tories can't be more damaging to this country than Nu Labour have been." is admittedly wishful thinking on my part, I'm not doing a particularly good job of convincing myself.

Hands up who thinks that if (let's be honest, when) the Tories get in, they'll repeal all that oppressive curtailment of freedom legislation with strokes of their pen in an Obama style?

Anyone, anyone....Bueller?

[Ted Max]

Depends on their majority. It'll probably be a v large one, but if by some chance it's a hung parliament then this is surely going to be one of the LibDems' main terms of business.

David Davies isn't too keen either - is he completely out of the loop now?

[Brendan]

The cynic in me has to admit that the likes of Cameron probably can?t wait to get their hands on it.

[Brendan]

The oppressive curtailment of freedom legislation that is.

[Jah Lush]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> The pre thatcher Tories weren't so bad, decent

> fellows and not a few statesmen about it.

> Even under Thatch there were a few capable bods

> about, though it seems to have been a trend across

> the political spectrum that their numbers are

> thinning.

That is so breathtakingly inaccurate that I almost refuse to believe you actually wrote that Piers. Perhaps you are too young to remember the three day working week under the Heath government or you fail to remember your political history. Jeez!

Now as it goes I voted for Thatcher in '79 because at the time I thought it was the right vote. I remember the dustmens strikes and all the rubbish piling up on the street, the poverty and long dole queues etc etc but it was a vote that I very quickly came to regret and I refrained from voting again until 1997 when I voted for Tony Blair. Each time I've voted a new goverment has got in and each time I've been disappointed with the bastards in power. But never will I ever vote for Tories again ever.

I'll be voting Green next time and if that is to the detriment or a plus to the Labour or Conservative parties then I really couldn't give a flying fcuk.

[*Bob*]

Well Jah, all that remains is for the Greens to get in, ruin the country, and then you'll have your hat trick.

Are there any governments which haven't 'ruined the country' after a decade in power? It's just the way of British politics innit.

[Jah Lush]

Innit tho *Bob*. I basically don't trust politicians as far as I can throw 'em, which probably isn't very far anyway. They're all cunts as far as I can see.

[mockney piers]

It may have been before my time, but I do take interest in political history.

I was talking more morally Jah, and there were some decent men amongst them (Whitelaw, Pym etc).

Plus 3 day working week was thanks to arrogant unions taking advantage of the Oil crisis to try to bring the government to its knees. It's because the old school tories weren't ruthless enough that nothing got solved, and the subsequent Labour government didn't have the political capital to do anything about it, Fasutian pacts eh?

Neither of us were fans of the Thatch, but you have to admit that something needed to be done.

[Jah Lush]

Yeah I agree and that's why I voted for the old cow.

[Keef]

Sorry, have been away from this since earlier posting.

oh I can see where Keef is coming from - it's like Tories who say they would never vote Labour and even in the dog days ofthe Major government after everything that had happened wouldn't vote non-Tory. I think you have to keep an open mind and if the current Tories had anything positive about them at all I would be tempted

They just haven't

Exactly right!

I'm not suggesting anyone should vote for them now, I am just saying that to say "I will never vote for xxxx party" is closed minded and ridiculous. Cu off nose to spite face springs to mind.

As for the Lib Dems, I have voted that way in the past, and was well impressed with the young lady MP they had on the Question Time in Peckham a couple of weeks back. I have however gone more Green recently, but it shall be one or the other.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

I'm voting as I love everybody and want everybody to come and join the endless Partytime that is Great Britain Ltd/PLC.

I would abolish all Border Controls and allow anybody who isn't legally entitled to come to Britain to come anyway, for the craic. Indeed I would provide transport, worldwide, to facilitate this.

I would allow all the (purported) 400,000 illegal immigrants to stay in London (that figure IS accurate as The Sun said so) and allow an Amnesty to ensure this occurs .

I would arrange weekly gatherings so we could all sit round the Campfire together and sing Happy-Clappy Songs about Rainbows.

Anyone who doesn't like this lovely idea can p*ss off to The Isle Of Wight.

Oh! I'd abolish all punishments, all deterrents, and certainly have no Prisons (apart from one containing Ian Huntley cos he wuz realy nasty)...

So its Lib-Dems for Me...:)-D

ALL TOGETHER NOW.

Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya

Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya

Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya

O Lord, kumbayaaaaaaa

[mockney piers]

twonk

[Jeremy]

I think Brits should be the last people complaining about people emigrating to *our* country.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> twonk

mockney piers: Let me have an "educated" guess........

You come from The Shires.

You come from a reasonably affluent background.

You had the benefit of a decent English education.

You, obviously, moved to the bright lights of London but have no natural affinity to the place. It "suits" for now.

You couldn't give a flying fcuk about England or, at best, you are indifferent, make that "supremely indifferent"..

I love England and London Town so forgive me for having a different viewpoint, shared by the majority of Brits and Londoners (old skool) one should think, so "twonk" on it and "twirl"..

Was Iclose btw?

[*Bob*]

I think I can hear Mockney typing.. could be a long one

[Jeremy]

Can't wait for the response. Suffice to say that I think TLS is quite wide of the mark on at least half of the "educated" guesses.

Seriously Tony, I've stood up for you on a couple of occasions, even if I haven't totally agreed with your views... but I think you're fighting a losing battle this time.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> I think I can hear Mockney typing.. could be a

> long one

It won't be "bob"..the illuminati only acknowledge their "own" on here, unless its to "mock" outsiders, rarely, if ever, to "engage".

Its beneath them, you see...engaging with, as Huguenot so admirably put it only 2 hours ago, "intellectual midgets"...

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Can't wait for the response.

It had better be quick Jeremy as I'm shortly to get in my car (I KNOW!:))) to go out for the night M8...

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> Jeremy Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Can't wait for the response.

>

> It had better be quick Jeremy as I'm shortly to

> get in my car (I KNOW!:))) to go out for the night

> M8...and whats a Guy to do?..I've been called everything under the sun many times but "twonk"..thats a bridge too far!

tls exeunt...

[Keef]

This bit

I would allow all the (purported) 400,000 illegal immigrants to stay in London (that figure IS accurate as The Sun said so) and allow an Amnesty to ensure this occurs .

had made me think it was all rather tongue in cheek. Was it not then?

Mockney is a blow in, and a Spaniard at that. What the heck does he know? Huh, huh huh????

[mockney piers]

spot on keef, I can't believe I've been outed, yes I hate England for betraying the great social revolution of the thirties and selling us out to the fascists; appeasing bastards!!

I will bring you down one day.....I hate you....I hate you all!!!

[mockney piers]

*sigh* ... but to address the points raised

1 out of 5 ain't bad, I did have "the benefit of a decent English [comprehensive] education" after I moved here (though Spain's education system has totally leapfrogged it since we left Franco's Spain).

That's not everything though is it, everyone still has to carve out their own life and some of my contemporaries have done well, most are fine and happy, some did not so well, some particularly badly and some are dead, one of them found on a park bench post heroin overdose, blue as the sky that morning.

So not only are you judgemental, you're rubbish at it.

My "twonk" was merely expressing annoyance that a pretty good debate was being had, then you appeared in the middle of an argument no-one else was having, with some nice simplistic juxtaposing of ludicrous policies noone has proposed, a willingness to vote lib-dem, and a hippy hymn.

Yep, constructive stuff.

I don't know you from Adam (and won't making a dreadful hash of being judgemental). You've probably got a good analytical mind there, some of your posts have certainly hinted at it in the past (though lord knows it's sometimes hard to see past the chips on your shoulder), but I don't think anyone will be gleaning any of that from your posts above and you won't win any brownie points from me (as if you want them) with such trite, pointless, tish and pish.

And judging by your apparent contempt of the shires, I'd say I'm not the one who hates England.

Regardless I extend the hand of friendship if you'll unclench...oh no, I'm plagiarising again aren't I.