Koz - what happened?

[Angharad_L]

Hisar is the best!! Their Turkish is amazing. Def go and try it out. I eat there all the time.

[Seabag]

Hisar for meat is serviceable

But really, the Tarma & the Humus is pretty low grade gunk

So it's ok, but i'd not go out of my way to eat there

The Mangal place in Camberwell is better, tho a little salt heavy last time I ate there

It's hard to beat Green Lanes for good Turkish food, or up by Hackney Empire

Possibly due to more competition and comunity

[Mick Mac]

Hisar is good for somewhere to go with the kids, or for a beer soaker on a night out with mates. It has its uses and the staff are very friendly. I like it.

I'm sure there is better if you want to search across London, but we are talking local comparisons to Koz and I think it was better than Koz, hence it has won out.

[Ron70]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Hisar is good for somewhere to go with the kids,

> or for a beer soaker on a night out with mates. It

> has its uses and the staff are very friendly. I

> like it.

>

> I'm sure there is better if you want to search

> across London, but we are talking local

> comparisons to Koz and I think it was better than

> Koz, hence it has won out.

Nope, it turns out that the guy who managed Koz actually owned the lease hold and can make more money from renting it out to another business and moving to Beckenham.

So not a local business forced out by greedy landlords after all!!

Ron70

[stephen509]

I liked Koz when I lived in ED.

It will have strong competition in Beckenham though.

There are already great Turkish places in Hisar, Lalezar & Kemer. Koz will have the biggest size though, so may cater to larger groups. Hisar is run by the original owners of the ED branch too & is much nicer.

James Wrote:

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> Koz belongs in Beckenham much more I think. Food

> offerings round here need to be more on trend.

>

> The cinema will be packed. Older forumites may be

> unaware of this but much like local restaurants

> and all things boutiquey and farmers' markety,

> cinemas of the plusher and more intimate kind are

> having a huge resurgence among 30- and

> 40-somethings.

[njc97]

Foxey: the Lewisham cinema closed in 1981. The Deptford one in 1970! By "a cult thing these days" do you mean "in the last 30 years"?

In a much shorter timescale there have been new cinemas built at Surrey Quays, Greenwich, the O2 and Canary Wharf. None of them have closed down.

[Mick Mac]

Ron70 Wrote:

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> Mick Mac Wrote:

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> > Hisar is good for somewhere to go with the

> kids,

> > or for a beer soaker on a night out with mates.

> It

> > has its uses and the staff are very friendly. I

> > like it.

> >

> > I'm sure there is better if you want to search

> > across London, but we are talking local

> > comparisons to Koz and I think it was better

> than

> > Koz, hence it has won out.

>

> Nope, it turns out that the guy who managed Koz

> actually owned the lease hold and can make more

> money from renting it out to another business and

> moving to Beckenham.

>

> So not a local business forced out by greedy

> landlords after all!!

>

> Ron70

I didn't say it was - I said it lost out to Hisar.

[cosmonaut]

Louisa Wrote:

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> I love Hong Hong, always fresh and good prices,

> but it's a take out, not an eat in restaurant. I

> have to go as far as Sheen for a decent sit down

> Chinese meal these days, it's bang out of line.

>

> Louisa.

There's Wuli Wuli and Silk Road in Camberwell for good sit down Chinese meals. And Mangal across the road for fantastic Turkish.

[Kbabe01]

He didn't have a problem with increased rent. He owns the building. The Italian offered him a lot of money for the lease and he accepted. Koz will re open in beckenham. Will be more like the Hisar. A takeaway with a restaurant next door.

[Wottajoke]

edcam Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > ToastED isn't French, is it??

>

>

> Nope.

What is it then because I thought it was?

[Callie]

They do a mixed menu meals from all different countries.

[Jeremy]

If I had to pigeon-hole Toast I'd say it was modern British, but as Callie says, the influences are international... bits of French, Mediterranean, middle eastern. Whatever tastes good...

[Cedges]

"Modern European" seems to be the coverall for that kind of food.

[Baggs]

It could be described as 'ingredient led' in that the menu is defined by quality of available ingredients rather than by a theme, concept or country of cuisine.