Jacqui

[louisiana]

Jacqui to spend more time with her sister/second home/porn movies/gardener

Looks like Gordon's cabinet is spontaneously combusting.

Do we get the Home Secretaries we deserve?

[matthew123]

Before we can answer that, what kind of Home Secretary do we deserve?

[jctg]

Well, seeing as we all seem to be being told not to vote anymore (because ALL politicians are corrupt) we'll probably end up with someone like Jeremy Kyle. Or Nick Griffin. Or if we're lucky, Vanessa Feltz.

[louisiana]

jctg, there was a piece in The Observer by Catherine Bennett about celebrity candidates.

[Jeremy]

The Nunhead "primary residence" thing was unforgivable.

But the porn movie thing... a ?5 expense which was probably sumbitted without her knowledge... I felt pretty sorry for her.

[louisiana]

matthew123 Wrote:

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> Before we can answer that, what kind of Home

> Secretary do we deserve?

Well as a nation we don't on the whole seem much concerned with civil liberties, and we seem to have had a procession of home secretaries who eroded liberties, locked up an increasing number of people (with little rehabilitation), and pushed through an extraordinary number of laws that perhaps suggest institutional paranoia.

[skidmarks]

There were a hell of a load of press outside her place this morning when I passed. I wonder if she is paying for the footways to be repaved outside her place at the moment.

[louisiana]

Or for the 'policing required' :-S

[blah]

louisiana Wrote:

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> matthew123 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

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> > Before we can answer that, what kind of Home

> > Secretary do we deserve?

>

> Well as a nation we don't on the whole seem much

> concerned with civil liberties, and we seem to

> have had a procession of home secretaries who

> eroded liberties, locked up an increasing number

> of people (with little rehabilitation), and pushed

> through an extraordinary number of laws that

> perhaps suggest institutional paranoia.

Sadly, a vox pop of the public would suggest the majority of them want these restrictiosn to feel "safer"

then again, tha vast majority of the public want to see hanging restored & paedphiles tortured to death with pliers.

I dont care about JS, she is probabaly at nthe better end ofthe shitbag politico spectrum, but its tortology innit

We have moved from an era of steadfast unbending party ethos to the middle ground of bland E-Z listening MOR parties, each willing to sell its greasy worthless soul for a few votes.

I had no love for the Ole Skool Labour Vs Conservative bedrock of the 20th century, but at least you knew how to differentiate between them on a facile basis. You knew where you stood with both these shitbag parties.

Now there is more choice of essentially the same product

200 different flavours of a vanilla ice cream isnt much a choice at all.The media experts and marketeers have commodified politics and made it another product to be sold and consumed.

You vote for these scummers, you rage at the laughable expense claims as directed by the media, you think that placing your little mark on a bit of paper every now and then will make a difference

it doesnt & it wont

[*Bob*]

Blears (rat) has left the cabinet (sinking ship)

I - for one - will miss her indomitable politic spirit, warmth and enduring charm.

[PeckhamRose]

blah - how do you suggest we run society?

[louisiana]

blah Wrote:

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> Now there is more choice of essentially the same

> product

>

> 200 different flavours of a vanilla ice cream isnt

> much a choice at all.The media experts and

> marketeers have commodified politics and made it

> another product to be sold and consumed.

>

Very much like Sainbury's versus Tesco.

[louisiana]

I'd vote for a party that abolished first past the post in favour of some form of proportional representation, and that introduced a bill of rights. Unfortunately any party with any chance of winning under the present system is unlikely to implement the former (once they get into office).

[Windom]

Abolition of 'first past the post'is unlikely for Westminster unless there is a hung parliment after the next election, which now seems unlikely as Labor is as popular as a pederast in daycare.