New opportunity to save the woods!! Deadline Friday 23rd

[woodvale.res]

edborders Wrote:

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> Save Southwark Woods street stall at Coop on

> Forest Hill Road. Almost total local support to

> save trees and graves. Til 5pm.

>

> Save Southwark Woods are fighting to stop

> Southwark from continuing to cut down trees and

> digging up or covering over the dead. We are for

> preserving their memorials.

>

> Lewis Schaffer

> Kind of person who misses trains on advanced

> tickets.

> Http://www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk

Does preserving memorials include climbing on them to take publicity photos ?????

[Loz]

panda boy Wrote:

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> But there is some hope it appears. Harriet Harman and Zac Goldsmith are now publicly

> demanding the work to be stopped until more answers have been provided by the council and

> further independent studies made.

Harman made a couple of quite reasonable suggestions, whereas Goldsmith has come over as a complete gullible fool who has believed just about all of SSW's propaganda.

I was quite undecided between Goldsmith and Khan for mayor - he's made it quite a simple choice for Khan for me now.

[edborders]

Report back from SSW table at the CoOp is near universal revulsion at tree cutting and disgust at local people's graves being dug up and mounded over. And not to mention the incedulity at the council leasing plots in crushed building waste above the remains of the dead.

Is there anyone who speaks up for the council plans and who will use their real name?

Lewis Schaffer

Failure at saving 12 big trees, failure as a father, failure at comedy.

Http://www.lewisschaffer.co.uk

[Loz]

edborders Wrote:

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> Report back from SSW table at the CoOp is near universal revulsion at tree cutting and disgust at

> local people's graves being dug up and mounded over. And not to mention the incedulity at the

> council leasing plots in crushed building waste above the remains of the dead.

Considering how Lewis re-interpreted Harman's letter, I think we can safely say this hasn't actually happened.

[edborders]

Can someone on this forum tell me the name of a group or a person who supports the Council's cemetery strategy I.e. cutting down trees, removing headstones, and digging up and mounding over graves to provide burial spaces in crushed construction waste on top of the buried dead or to provide space in confiscated graves above the remains of the previous occupants? (Besides an undertaker, a council worker, a Councillor or contractor.)

Thank you

Lewis Schaffer

Nunhead American Radio

[Loz]

edborders Wrote:

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> Can someone on this forum tell me the name of a group or a person who supports the Council's

> cemetery strategy I.e. cutting down trees, removing headstones, and digging up and mounding

> over graves to provide burial spaces in crushed construction waste on top of the buried dead or to

> provide space in confiscated graves above the remains of the previous occupants? (Besides an

> undertaker, a council worker, a Councillor or contractor.)

You really have quite an unhealthy fascination about collecting the names of those who oppose your little group, don't you? It really is quite creepy.

SSW: We are making notes, and when we win the war, you will be brought to account. You - what is your name.

Mainwaring: Don't tell him, Pike!

SSW: [writes down name] Pike...

[Penguin68]

I can say (happily) that (1) I am entirely relaxed about Southwark implementing policies as set-out in (leads to a downloaded .pdf) https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjwqPLYyOPKAhWLbD4KHRJ0D7YQFggkMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southwark.gov.uk%2Fdownload%2Fdownloads%2Fid%2F11857%2Flednet_report&usg=AFQjCNFAByQf3HUb8islnvImdlc-c_A-JA&cad=rja and that (2) I am sad that Southwark so neglected its graveyards that it needs now to undertake remedial works to clear scrub growth and cope with graves damaged by unplanned tree-growth etc. but accept that this is a necessary step to bringing back land always intended for burials into use.

Your use of words (i.e. 'confiscated') is always tendentious. But yes, actually, councils are allowed to re-use burial space, under certain very clear provisos.

And I am fed up with you constantly claiming your opponents are partial - don't tell me all this publicity isn't intended to boost your personal career as a stand-up - you use your name because you want to sell your name. This campaign (dishonest as it is) is all about marketing you.

[dbboy]

Seems yesterdays warning has fallen on DEAF ears, carry on pushing the boundaries, or is that borders (see what I did there) and I hope and pray Admin will do what it should have done a long time ago and BAN you. Then you'll have no publicity what so ever.

Funny how Harriet's letter is so small and unreadable, now we know why.

Like everything from Nundead heights (which is also a figment of your imagination) actually its Nunhead Grove, to now saying you have universal revulsion, you call anything you don't like black when its white, hot when its cold, light when its dark, you don't want change unless its change you want etc. Your behaviour is similar to that of a magalamaniac.

There was an adult discussion being undertaken on the issue, but yesterday your posts put a stop to all of that. If you disagree so vermontly with the council, go get an injunction and do it legally rather than continuing to bleat.

[edborders]

I am going to propose having a debate of some sort and need someone to represent the pro camp

Would someone on this Forum give me the name of a group or a person who supports the Council's cemetery strategy

I.e. cutting down trees, removing headstones, and digging up and mounding over graves to provide burial spaces in crushed construction waste on top of the buried dead or to provide space in a confiscated grave above the remains of the previous occupants?

Lewis Schaffer

Email me

[dbboy]

Try southwark Council, you have all their names, Oh they won't talk with you either, I wonder why?????????????????????????

But in the mean time................................

> SSW: We are making notes, and when we win the war,

> you will be brought to account. You - what is

> your name.

> Mainwaring: Don't tell him, Pike!

> SSW: Pike...

[Sue]

edborders Wrote:

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> I am going to propose having a debate of some sort

> and need someone to represent the pro camp

>

> Would someone on this Forum give me the name of a

> group or a person who supports the Council's

> cemetery strategy

>

> I.e. cutting down trees, removing headstones, and

> digging up and mounding over graves to provide

> burial spaces in crushed construction waste on top

> of the buried dead or to provide space in a

> confiscated grave above the remains of the

> previous occupants?

>

> Lewis Schaffer

> Email me

I can't imagine that anybody who has read the whole of this thread would want to take part in a face to face debate with you, on either side.

[Otta]

edcam Wrote:

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> Time this thread was locked and consigned to

> comedy forum history?

This ^^^

steveo Wrote:

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> I think Lewis is gathering material and a ban

> would be playing into his comedic hands.

^^^^ And this.

This was fun for a while (I never really cared either way about what happens, but I did think some of the SSW falsehoods needed challenging), but the fun has drained away and it's like watching a once loved pet sitting in it's own poo because it can't move on.

Put it out of it's misery.

[edborders]

Think that would be a really good idea to have a meeting or a debate or something - to see how the community feels. There has been posts on this forum which say that Save Southwark Woods doesn't really have local support.

Would someone on this Forum give me the name of a group or a person who supports the Council's cemetery strategy? Someone?

The person or group can even debate what we think is the strategy.

We think the council's strategy is to cut down trees, remove headstones, and dig up and mounding over graves to provide burial spaces in crushed construction waste on top of the buried dead or to provide space in confiscated graves above the remains of the previous occupants. We are sure it is to cut down trees cause they have done that already.

I think it should be someone who doesn't have a vested financial interest in the strategy. Then again, it would be nice to see Councillor Vicki Mills or her husband Gavin Edward or Fiona Colley defend their horrible, sinful, cynical and immoral actions.

Any names?

Lewis Schaffer

Local Person

[Otta]

Sinful?

Dude, don't go there.

[Loz]

edborders Wrote:

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> I am going to propose having a debate of some sort and need someone to represent the pro camp

>

> Would someone on this Forum give me the name of a group or a person who supports the Council's

> cemetery strategy

Well, in that case, get the experts in, i.e. the council.

I think you'll need someone of the calibre of Kofi Annan to chair that kind of debate, though.

[dbboy]

edborders Wrote:

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> Think that would be a really good idea to have a

> meeting or a debate or something - to see how the

> community feels. There has been posts on this

> forum which say that Save Southwark Woods doesn't

> really have local support.

>

> Would someone on this Forum give me the name of a

> group or a person who supports the Council's

> cemetery strategy? Someone?

>

> The person or group can even debate what we think

> is the strategy.

>

> We think the council's strategy is to cut down

> trees, remove headstones, and dig up and mounding

> over graves to provide burial spaces in crushed

> construction waste on top of the buried dead or to

> provide space in confiscated graves above the

> remains of the previous occupants. We are sure it

> is to cut down trees cause they have done that

> already.

>

> I think it should be someone who doesn't have a

> vested financial interest in the strategy. Then

> again, it would be nice to see Councillor Vicki

> Mills or her husband Gavin Edward or Fiona Colley

> defend their horrible, sinful, cynical and immoral

> actions.

>

> Any names?

> Lewis Schaffer

> Local Person

Yeah, the Grim Reaper, running around a cemetery.

[Mark]

Despite a warning to behave, Edborders has been banned.

[Administrator]

Despite a warning to behave, Edborders has now been banned.

[Sue]

Just wondering on what grounds? Asking people to send him names?

[Penguin68]

Some posts have been excised. Including one naming councilors and making accusations against them.

[Sue]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> Some posts have been excised. Including one naming

> councilors and making accusations against them.

Ah. Oh dear.

[ruffers]

Administrator Wrote:

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> Despite a warning to behave, Edborders has now

> been banned.

All material for his forthcoming show I'm sure.

[edhistory]

The Ivy House management would be well advised to make a precautionary recording of the performance.

[Sue]

Surely the Ivy House couldn't be held responsible for anything somebody might say from the stage???

[edcam]

Administrator Wrote:

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> Despite a warning to behave, Edborders has now

> been banned.

Thank goodness. Although it has to be said that several regular posters have behaved appallingly on this thread.