Celtic - We just want someone to love us...

[woofmarkthedog]

I mean Wigan is a separate country with it's own language an' everything and they got in, so don't see why the "others" cant have a go. Starting in say league 2 and go from there, maybe even an invitational show match or 2 for "charidy" meanwhile.

The only area of difficulty maybe that the after match live chat on Sky " Och a weell ya see....Nooooo ehhh I" may need subtitles. Though scouser Jamie Carrick is on enough & that requires the sound up with full concentration but we get through that " ehhhm.. like" OK.

Maybe....perhaps it could work.

W**F

[ruffers]

matthew123 Wrote:

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> It's not simply a case of have Rangers and Celtic

> to beef up the top half of Premiership it's about

> giving them the opportunity to reach their full

> potential as football clubs just like the same

> opportunity as other clubs in England (plus

> Cardiff and Swansea).

They have reached their full potential.. that's it really. Why should they have their potential changed?

[Mick Mac]

We achieved our full potential Ruffers - it does not get any higher or better than this.

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I support Celtic because on the day I was born in September 1967 , I asked my Dad - "which team is the best in Europe Dad?" - and he said - "Glasgow Celtic son - they beat the mighty Inter Milan, they played them off the park. A great victory for British football".

[monica]

Is the Mick Mac man Irish, English or Scottish? Not that it matters but Im curious.

[Narnia]

It's obvious from various posts by Mick including this one that he was born Irish, wishes he was Scottish but accepts that he is really English. Is Monica an Italian or Spanish name?

[monica]

my Spanish grandmother named me, however it is common in Eastern Europe and Italy. Declan must be Irish.

[Mick Mac]

Declan Wrote:

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> It's obvious from various posts by Mick including

> this one that he was born Irish, wishes he was

> Scottish but accepts that he is really English.

Yes very good Declan. I have never wished I was Scottish, but I'm beginning to come to terms with the fact that I am likely to stay in England. Its been 20 years now and my kids appear to be English, my wife is English and I even speak the language (although Ladymuck has questioned this).

Celtic as any supporter knows has its roots in the Irish community so its the most Irish team this side of the water and thats part of the reason I support them, nothing to do with Scotland or wishing I was Scottish. Although I don't mind the Scots at all.

[Narnia]

No offence intended Mick but having a soft spot for a team this side of the water is partially because we aren't that side of the water.If I was there I'd probably go back to watching Longford Town if it didn't clash with Longford RFC playing. Don Givens brother used to play for Da Town ya know.Mind you I'd still be a ManU fan.

edited to take out the sectarian bo**ix

[SCSB79]

Both Rangers and Celtic would struggle to stay in the Premiership just now. At the end of the day it all comes down to money... I think the team relegated from the Prem gets about 30million TV money? Rangers and Celtic get about 2-3million a year.

If we had that sort of money, then we'd compete. It would not be difficult for both to attract big names... Rangers and Celtic are 2 huge, huge clubs. I think I'm right in saying only 3, maybe 4 teams in the EPL get higher attendances than Rangers and Celtic.

I can't see it being an automatic route into the premiership... turkeys don't vote for Christmas... can you see teams saying they'd let R&C in at their own expense? No idea how it will happen, but I can see them both in an English league at some point...

Also, Scottish football wouldn't die, there is the argument it would become better and have a more competitive league allowing the other teams to win and flourish.

p.s Declan - why the need for the sectarian bollox?

[Atila Reincarnate]

Rangers or Celtic in the ENGLISH Premier league? The answer is in the title. And if so, at whose expense? Who would miss out on promotion or be dropped as a result of such a ludicrous scenario. Leave them where they are. I wonder if the roles where reversed ther would be the same sort of clamour for ENGLISH teams to join the SCOTTISH prem league.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Are you offering up Arsenal as Queens of the South?

[Atila Reincarnate]

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote:

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> Are you offering up Arsenal as Queens of the

> South?

Oh my dear lord, hilarious, did you think that up all by yourself? I bet parties at your place are a real scream.

[Keef]

Bloody hell Atila, calm down man! PGC made a joke, nothing personal.

[Atila Reincarnate]

Keef Wrote:

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> Bloody hell Atila, calm down man! PGC made a joke,

> nothing personal.

As I did dear boy, as I did. You know what they say, if you can't take it don't dish it out.

[SCSB79]

Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

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> Rangers or Celtic in the ENGLISH Premier league?

> The answer is in the title. And if so, at whose

> expense? Who would miss out on promotion or be

> dropped as a result of such a ludicrous scenario.

> Leave them where they are. I wonder if the roles

> where reversed ther would be the same sort of

> clamour for ENGLISH teams to join the SCOTTISH

> prem league.

Someone let in Cardiff and Swansea who carrect me if I am wrong - are WELSH, in the ENGLISH legues???

[Atila Reincarnate]

SCSB79 Wrote:

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> Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Rangers or Celtic in the ENGLISH Premier

> league?

> > The answer is in the title. And if so, at whose

> > expense? Who would miss out on promotion or be

> > dropped as a result of such a ludicrous

> scenario.

> > Leave them where they are. I wonder if the

> roles

> > where reversed ther would be the same sort of

> > clamour for ENGLISH teams to join the SCOTTISH

> > prem league.

>

>

> Someone let in Cardiff and Swansea who carrect me

> if I am wrong - are WELSH, in the ENGLISH

> legues???

Yes are they are well spotted, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Tell you what, let's have German, French or Italian clubs in the prem, why not. After all away days to some French sides will be just as far or even closer than going to Scotland. What a great idea. See if you can sell it to the powers that be.

[Keef]

Tell you what, let's have German, French or Italian clubs in the prem

Careful what you wish for, it may not be long until the likes of Asenal, Liverpool and Man U are playing in a league just like that!

[Atila Reincarnate]

Keef Wrote:

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> Tell you what, let's have German, French or

> Italian clubs in the prem

>

> Careful what you wish for, it may not be long

> until the likes of Asenal, Liverpool and Man U are

> playing in a league just like that!

I think it's only a matter of time before that happens, I've been expecting something like this for years. Champs League is more or less such a league anyway.

[Narnia]

Have edited my post to extract anything offensive.......I hope

[SCSB79]

> Yes are they are well spotted, 2 wrongs don't make

> a right. Tell you what, let's have German, French

> or Italian clubs in the prem, why not. After all

> away days to some French sides will be just as far

> or even closer than going to Scotland. What a

> great idea. See if you can sell it to the powers

> that be.

Maybe a wee bit over the top - aren't we all part of Britain????

I often thought it might be a good idea to ditch both league cups in England and Scotland (do they have a minor cup in Wales?) and play a British League Cup???

[Atila Reincarnate]

Better still just ditch the League Cup.

[matthew123]

Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

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> SCSB79 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > Rangers or Celtic in the ENGLISH Premier

> > league?

> > > The answer is in the title. And if so, at

> whose

> > > expense? Who would miss out on promotion or

> be

> > > dropped as a result of such a ludicrous

> > scenario.

> > > Leave them where they are. I wonder if the

> > roles

> > > where reversed ther would be the same sort of

> > > clamour for ENGLISH teams to join the

> SCOTTISH

> > > prem league.

> >

> >

> > Someone let in Cardiff and Swansea who carrect

> me

> > if I am wrong - are WELSH, in the ENGLISH

> > legues???

>

> Yes are they are well spotted, 2 wrongs don't make

> a right. Tell you what, let's have German, French

> or Italian clubs in the prem, why not. After all

> away days to some French sides will be just as far

> or even closer than going to Scotland. What a

> great idea. See if you can sell it to the powers

> that be.

Swansea and Cardiff are in the 'English' league because when they joined up it was the "Football League of England & Wales" - similarly when the First Division was renamed the Premiership back in the early nineties should likes of Spurs & West Ham have been kicked out? ;-)

[????]

West Ham couldn't have been kicked out...they voted for it and then got themselves relegated

[monica]

> Yes very good Declan. I have never wished I was

> Scottish, but I'm beginning to come to terms with

> the fact that I am likely to stay in England. Its

> been 20 years now and my kids appear to be

> English, my wife is English and I even speak the

> language (although Ladymuck has questioned this).

>

> Celtic as any supporter knows has its roots in the

> Irish community so its the most Irish team this

> side of the water and thats part of the reason I

> support them, nothing to do with Scotland or

> wishing I was Scottish. Although I don't mind the

> Scots at all.

Mick Mac my spies tell me you are from the North of Ireland or Northern Ireland and you have lovely Blue eyes. Is this true?>:D< Thats how you know Gary Mccausland, right now the penny has dropped(Finally)

[Mick Mac]

monica Wrote:

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> > Yes very good Declan. I have never wished I was

> > Scottish, but I'm beginning to come to terms

> with

> > the fact that I am likely to stay in England.

> Its

> > been 20 years now and my kids appear to be

> > English, my wife is English and I even speak

> the

> > language (although Ladymuck has questioned

> this).

> >

> > Celtic as any supporter knows has its roots in

> the

> > Irish community so its the most Irish team this

> > side of the water and thats part of the reason

> I

> > support them, nothing to do with Scotland or

> > wishing I was Scottish. Although I don't mind

> the

> > Scots at all.

>

> Mick Mac my spies tell me you are from the North

> of Ireland or Northern Ireland and you have lovely

> Blue eyes. Is this true?>:D Gary Mccausland, right now the penny has

> dropped(Finally)

I stayed in the same house as Gary in final year of University at Jordanstown. Have not seen him since, apart from watching him on TV and wondering how the lucky bugger managed it. Always had a suspicion he was after my girlfriend, so didn't quite trust him. Get the impression that you might not trust yourself with him either Monica?....