Suspicious activity paronoia

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Otta Wrote:

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> In all seriousness, a few weeks back I took my

> daughter to ballet (as I do every week) and once

> she was in there I went outside and sat on a step

> whilst reading my book.

>

> Some girls from the previous class were hanging

> around presumably waiting for their parents to

> collect them, when a mum came up the path, looked

> at me, and immediately told the girls to get

> inside.

>

> Now I'm all for teaching stranger danger, but I

> honestly really felt like this woman was looking

> at me like I was wearing an "I like little girls"

> badge. Made me feel pretty shit.

>

> And all I was doing was reading my book, barely

> aware the girls were there until she came along

> and raised the alarm.

>

> So foxy could have a point.

You still reading "lolliata"?

[Louisa]

DaveR Wrote:

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> "That's the sort of disgraceful behaviour I expect

> of these alarmist, privileged mothers who spend

> their afternoons taking care of their offspring in

> fancy cafes around the area."

>

> And that's the sort of ridiculous over the top

> rubbish we expect of you.

>

> A mum says to a child something that is perfectly

> consistent with "don't bother that man", as

> opposed to "beware of that dangerous man" and

> suddenly we're off and running with yet another

> infantile class-based diatribe against the

> 'privileged'.

>

> And 'the Fox' is terrified to go into a cafe.

> FFS.

>

> It's still a fact that more women than men spend

> more time looking after young kids, so many places

> have lost of mums and few if any dads. It's

> really not hard (in my experience) to smile and be

> polite and in 99% of cases everybody is fine. The

> paranoia is in your head, DF.

But let's face it, we all know the ignorant over the top attitude comes from a certain class of people, don't we? The Fox was simply minding his own business in the queue, and someone's child (clearly not under control) is shouted at from across the cafe by the parent in a way which is obviously degrading, and this person makes no effort to resolve their own insecurities by having a think about what they've done and apologising to someone else in the same cafe, you know, a customer, who should be able to visit a business without fear of being judged by other customers, particularly ones who can't control their own children.

Louisa.

[miga]

steveo Wrote:

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> When I sit childless in the park, drinking a gin

> flavoured coke, I periodically shout out 'Jacob!'

> or 'Channing!. Be careful,' to my mythical kids

> and get reassuring nods from the mums.

>

> Oddly, sometimes strange children come over to me

> and say 'did you call me?'

Ah, so that's you. Good to put a face to a name.

[Bob Buzzard]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> The problem these days is that these so-called

> parents just let their kids run riot and invade

> other people's space when you're just trying to

> have a cup of tea.

>

> The problem theses days is that these so-called

> parents don't let their kids run riot and invade

> other people's spaces when they're trying to have

> a cup of tea.

>

> etc

Is *Bob* the alter ego of Bob Buzzard? That's possible suspicious activity paranoia.

[WorkingMummy]

Re Louisa's last post...

Child not under control?? Because they were standing still and looking at someone?

What the child did was a tiny bit inappropriate. The Fox himself said, we all know kids do this. They need to be reminded not to do it, but really...

I understand entirley how upsetting it would be for The Fox to feel that the mother was trying to protect her children from him, but I really doubt that was her motive. Regardless, the Fox is not describing a situation in which the kid was out of control.

[Otta]

???? Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > In all seriousness, a few weeks back I took my

> > daughter to ballet (as I do every week) and

> once

> > she was in there I went outside and sat on a

> step

> > whilst reading my book.

> >

> > Some girls from the previous class were hanging

> > around presumably waiting for their parents to

> > collect them, when a mum came up the path,

> looked

> > at me, and immediately told the girls to get

> > inside.

> >

> > Now I'm all for teaching stranger danger, but I

> > honestly really felt like this woman was

> looking

> > at me like I was wearing an "I like little

> girls"

> > badge. Made me feel pretty shit.

> >

> > And all I was doing was reading my book, barely

> > aware the girls were there until she came along

> > and raised the alarm.

> >

> > So foxy could have a point.

>

>

> You still reading "lolliata"?

LOL :))

[DulwichFox]

I wasn't suggesting that any child was out of control.. I'm sure I stared at people when I was little.

I'm tempted to stick my thumbs against the side of my head, waggle my fingers , stick my tongue out

and go loblobloblo..

Do you think that would work.. ??

Foxy..

[Grok]

Poor Foxy, such a shame. You and Lou are both right. Imo its yet another way the middle classes try and winkle out the long standing residents because they dont like the look of them!

Foxy, you didnt get lost on Crystal Palace Rd the other evening, did you? :-)

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> There seems to be so much talk of Suspicious

> activity ..

>

> Bloke at the bus stop wearing a big coat and a

> hat.. looked really dodgy.

>

> It was a while back maybe 18 months ago. After a

> 4-5 mile walk I went in to the Caf? on Peckham Rye

>

> for a cup of tea and a almond croissant. Restore

> sugar levels. Being diabetic I was testing my

> levels after exercise.

>

> Well there were loads of kids in there and we all

> know how small kids often stand and stare at

> people..

>

> All of a sudden one of the 'Mums' ? shouted..

> 'Come over here darling , come away from the man,

> what Have I told you. '

>

> I was mortified.

>

> I have on occasion spoke about caf?s and mums,

> buggies & babies.. and not having proper blokes

> cafes...

>

> I feel ostracized looking through the window of

> these mummy cafes. I terrified to walk through the

> door.

> This has led to people suggesting myself as being

> anti new businesses. I'm not.

>

> There just aren't many places in E.D where a

> single bloke can go for a cup of tea without being

> made to feel uncomfortable.

>

> DulwichFox

[DulwichFox]

Grok Wrote:

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> Poor Foxy, such a shame. You and Lou are both

> right. Imo its yet another way the middle classes

> try and winkle out the long standing residents

> because they dont like the look of them!

Is a fact.. ? Are you saying there are no long standing middle class residents... ?

Foxy, you didnt get lost on Crystal Palace Rd the other evening, did you? :-)

That is very unlikely. I have no reason to be on Crystal Palace Rd. in the evening.. or during the day for that matter.

DulwichFox

[Loz]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> It wasn?t that long ago that more women than not

> had to put up with all sorts of actual (real) crap

> from men in a variety of social, public and

> workplaces.

>

> Now the pendulum has swung. Consider the fate of

> poor modern man. Forced to share a public space

> with a load of women whose only passing interest

> is in stopping their children from bothering him.

>

> Woe is him.

Ha ha. Classic Guardianista comment. Basically, it's "Gadzooks! I have consulted my 'Big Guardian List of Acceptable Identity Groups That May Complain About Things (2015-2016)' and I can't see anyone here is included on it. I shall therefore post some whataboutery, and for increased emphasis of my personal disdain for their complaining, I shall include the word 'real' in brackets to truly underline my mockery".

[WorkingMummy]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> I wasn't suggesting that any child was out of

> control.. I'm sure I stared at people when I was

> little.

>

> I'm tempted to stick my thumbs against the side

> of my head, waggle my fingers , stick my tongue

> out

> and go loblobloblo..

>

> Do you think that would work.. ??

>

> Foxy...

You were very understanding about the kids

Your method has got to vary with the child, that's the thing. Your head/waggle move would make my puppy back off but might make my kids laugh and talk to you.

[WorkingMummy]

...my puppy stands and stares at strangers. It's a phase.

[KidKruger]

when I find myself feeling some parent (through their passive-aggressive way of hastily rescuing their child from my vicinity) has 'concerns' about me, I think "feck you, I've nowt to be ashamed of" and start a conversation with their kid(s). Feck them, why should anyone feel that way !

[James D]

Otta, that sounds like my missus. Summed her right up. She takes the kid to ballet. I'll have a word....

[EDOldie]

I've decided to have a Christmas makeover. Shouldn't have any problems now!

[uncleglen]

It's a pity more people weren't suspicious and paranoid around the likes of him at the time!