Street Cycle Store (at the end of Thorncombe Road)

[fruityloops]

If you are not a cyclist would you want one of these parked right outside your front door.

Will they be sited away from residential front doors?

I would not like one right outside my house.

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In answer to your question (1) yes I'm a cyclist (2) no I certainly wouldn't want to look out of my window onto that.

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Except the having it in front of your house doesn't guarantee you access to it. Personally, I wouldn't want one directly in front of my house. I'm glad there are people who do though as hopefully the council will take individual preference into consideration when selecting the precise location.

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Just a handful of the examples of NIMBYism on this thread.

[LondonMix]

I never asked those questions by the way, that was someone else.

I don't think the hangers should be located in front of front doors but at junctions away from front doors. If other people want them in front of their front doors then great for them. I'm glad siting them is done via consultation so that people can get what they want / makes sense for them.

If that is NIMBYism to you so be it, you clearly are just spoiling for a fight

[DaveR]

"Yes, DF, that is why I asked DaveR if he thought those/any family who requested a hangar on their street should also give up their car, if they have one. He did not answer."

Just to be clear, I didn't answer because it's a very stupid question.

[rupert jones]

LondonMix Wrote:

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>

> I don't think the hangers should be located in

> front of front doors but at junctions away from

> front doors. If other people want them in front

> of their front doors then great for them. I'm glad

> siting them is done via consultation so that

> people can get what they want / makes sense for

> them.

>

Consultation not according to this

We're trying to get them placed outside people who have requested them.

Lambeth now has over 150 of these installed. Southwark is aiming for another 89 to add to 11. With the right scale this could become a strategic transport project and that is the angle I've taken with council officials.

With regard to attractiveness. Lambeth in some cases have bookened them with street streets in the road. Seems a great way of doing it.

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[LondonMix]

I was basing my statement on Sue's comment who has actually been through the process for the one being installed near her street following her request.

[LondonMix]

And all of the ones I've seen in ED so far are at junctions away from front doors / windows so that is clearly possible

[first mate]

DaveR, oh dear.

[rupert jones]

There are only so many junctions with space to use safely, most of ED have houses on the end of roads.

[wulfhound]

Here's one of those hangars looking a lot less fugly..

http://winerides.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Bikehangar-Planters-Wood.jpg

@ keano77 they're basically just bolted down - and if nobody's using it, I'd imagine the council will move it to somewhere that it will get used. So that they can charge people to use it. No point in having them on the street if they're not used.

[rupert jones]

And you expect Southwark to go round planting and tending.

They cannot even keep the streets tidy.

[LondonMix]

Most streets do not have a front door at the junction. Most streets have two junctions. Its entirely possible to do this for virtually every road that requests it without running out of space.

rupert jones Wrote:

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> There are only so many junctions with space to use

> safely, most of ED have houses on the end of

> roads.

[rupert jones]

As Southwark now look to have yellow lines on junctions for safety, surely putting one of these will hinder sight lines

Which will render this yellow line policy pointless.

So they will have to be outside someone's house.

[LondonMix]

They can be placed at the same junctions they are being placed at now. Most streets are organised in the same way as the streets that already have them.

[rupert jones]

I must be walking round another Ed.

E.g where would you put them on Shawbury Road, sylvester Road, Melbourne Grove. East Dulwich Grove etc

[Abe_froeman]

You'd either have to demolish the buildouts or put them in front of someone's house in many streets.

As you say, the buildouts purport to improve visibility at junctions.

[LondonMix]

For Sylvester road, they could go in the junction with Cyrena which is where the one for Heber road is located.

I'd have to look at the other roads as I don't live as near them to answer quickly.

[keano77]

wulfhound Wrote:

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> Here's one of those hangars looking a lot less

> fugly..

>

> http://winerides.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/

> Bikehangar-Planters-Wood.jpg

>

> @ keano77 they're basically just bolted down - and

> if nobody's using it, I'd imagine the council will

> move it to somewhere that it will get used. So

> that they can charge people to use it. No point in

> having them on the street if they're not used.

Yes, fair enough wulfhound, that would make sense.

However, I can't help feeling the hangars look like pig pens

[fruityloops]

This thread is jokes. Get over yourselves you daft backwards people. Accept the future, or at least come to terms with it. It's not all bad..

[Earl Aelfheah]

rupert jones Wrote:

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> I must be walking round another Ed.

>

> E.g where would you put them on Shawbury Road,

> sylvester Road, Melbourne Grove. East Dulwich

> Grove etc

Literally spend 30 seconds on Google Street View and you'll find that all of these streets have stretches which are not directly overlooked by houses. For example:

Shawbury Rd:

Sylvester Road:

Melbourne Grove:

But really, one could equally complain about having to overlook cars/ vans etc. The only difference is that we're used to the latter and these hangers are new.

[fruityloops]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> rupert jones Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I must be walking round another Ed.

> >

> > E.g where would you put them on Shawbury Road,

> > sylvester Road, Melbourne Grove. East Dulwich

> > Grove etc

>

> Literally spend 30 seconds on Google Street View

> and you'll find that all of these streets have

> stretches which are not directly overlooked by

> houses. For example:

>

> Shawbury Rd:

>

> 86,3a,75y,31.83h,69.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szXbZyG

> YmQSaY7eEasQVw7w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

>

> Sylvester Road:

>

> 26,3a,75y,345.96h,54.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVfRku

> u-mahr1YZRgFbl4NQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

>

> Melbourne Grove:

>

> 68,3a,75y,307.64h,71.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svtiIg

> gSDLqs2hZ-2krHXoA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

>

> But really, one could equally complain about

> having to overlook cars/ vans etc. The only

> difference is that we're used to the latter and

> these hangers are new.

These all look like great positions for bike Hangars.

[richard tudor]

I think what Rupert was saying the above are only example names he had come to mind and not all the roads in East Dulwich.

[ed_pete]

You can suggest a location using the website here:

https://www.cyclehoop.rentals/suggest-location/

Interestingly there is also a map of all the locations that have already been suggested.

 

[Earl Aelfheah]

richard tudor Wrote:

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> I think what Rupert was saying the above are only

> example names he had come to mind and not all the

> roads in East Dulwich.

Almost every street has similar spots, which aren't directly overlooked, that's the point. take almost any street and a quick Streetview will uncover a bits which aren't located directly outside someone's front door.

[spider69]

ed_pete Wrote:

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> You can suggest a location using the website

> here:

>

> https://www.cyclehoop.rentals/suggest-location/

>

> Interestingly there is also a map of all the

> locations that have already been suggested.

Will Southwark be subjecting all these bikehangers to local consultation or will they just plonk them down and thats it?

>

>

[LondonMix]

Exactly, that was my point. I don't think this is a big deal. They have been and can be located in this way. If some people specifically prefer to have them directly in front of their house as they think that's better, then hopefully that could also be arranged at the time of request.

I like the planters in the picture some else attached. It definitely softens the look of them.

The hangars come what may are a great new addition.

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> richard tudor Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I think what Rupert was saying the above are

> only

> > example names he had come to mind and not all

> the

> > roads in East Dulwich.

>

> Almost every street has similar spots, which

> aren't directly overlooked, that's the point. take

> almost any street and a quick Streetview will

> uncover a bits which aren't located directly

> outside someone's front door.