Tasty bivalves.

[Louisa]

Bentley's it's called apparently.

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Bentley's it's called apparently.

>

> Louisa.

Well, its not going to be called ' Skoda's ' is it :)

Foxy

[Jeremy]

Bentley's is in the west end... think you might have your wires crossed?

[edcam]

If Louisa and Dulwich Fox don't like something, you can almost certainly guarantee they're worth trying!

[Seabag]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Jez exactly! It's an imagined branding exercise in

> which people want to believe that certain food

> types are more exclusive than others (whether they

> are in fact or not!). I've seen people buy branded

> products in supermarkets for much the same reason,

> despite their dubious claim to being any different

> to equally non-branded similar products.

>

> Louisa.

I blame the Roman bl0w in's back in Colchester in 50BC

Pretentious people with names like Titus and Augustus, going around up to their knees in sea water, planting flavourless bivalves

Damn them

[JoeLeg]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Who cares how much they cost. They're a pointless

> food article regardless. No flavour or taste, just

> an excuse for people to pontificate the imagined

> exclusivity of the process in which you consume

> these things.

>

> Louisa.

Some people say the same about Harvester restaurants... Of course, one of the things about food and taste buds and personal opinion is that it's all subjective, there is no right or wrong - hey, a lot of people love durian and natto, despite me thinking those are two of the evilest flavours on the planet. Are they wrong? Am I? Neither.

Cos it's all subjective.

You don't like oysters. Nor do I. But there's a lot of folk who do, and they don't eat them just for the thrill of spending money. Go ask Richard Corrigan, a man who grew up dirt poor and now owns Bentleys, why he loved them even when he lived in poverty in rural Ireland. Can't have been the cost...

Snobbery goes both ways. Food should be above that.

[maxxi]

Love an oyster or six - whether in steak, kidney and oyster pudding or alive and naked except for a little shallot vinegar, and i like to masticate the slippery feckers a little rather than just suck and swallow - I'm sure i can hear them scream.

[DulwichFox]

When I was a kid in the 50's, when people went to the butchers and asked for bones for their dog,

They were given a bag of lamb shanks FREE. Even though the war was just over and rationing had just ended

people would not eat lamb shanks.. Now they are a luxury and cost a relative fortune.. especially in restaurants.

Oysters are the same.. Cockles and Mussels likewise.

DulwichFox

[Jeremy]

must... not.. bite...

but... what a load of rubbish, fox...

[DulwichFox]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> must... not.. bite...

>

> but... what a load of rubbish, fox...

How is it rubbish..? it is fact.. not disputable.. nothing to argue about..

Were you around in the 50's. Have you bought lamb shank recently .. ? Ridiculous price..

DulwichFox

[Grok]

Let the pretentious have their fill.....

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/16360/20150831/oysters-norovirus-factories-experts.htm

Louisa Wrote:

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> Who cares how much they cost. They're a pointless

> food article regardless. No flavour or taste, just

> an excuse for people to pontificate the imagined

> exclusivity of the process in which you consume

> these things.

>

> Louisa.

[Jeremy]

Lamb shanks are not cheap, but two lamb shanks (?7?) will feed three. Not ridiculous.

Big bowls of mussels are around a tenner in Belgo or similar. They are pretty cheap.

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> was just over and rationing had

> just ended

> people would not eat lamb shanks.. Now they are a

> luxury and cost a relative fortune.. especially in

> restaurants.

>

>

You can buy lamb shanks really cheaply in places like Iceland. They're something like a fiver for two big ones.

And Indian restaurants quite often have lamb shank on their menu, which is not particularly expensive compared to the other stuff.

And you can buy cooked mussels in Sainsbury's for ?2 for 200g which are excellent for fish soup.

I had forgotten you could cook oysters, maybe I need to try them cooked and I might change my mind :)

[maxxi]

Sue Wrote:

> I had forgotten you could cook oysters, maybe I

> need to try them cooked and I might change my mind

> :)

You could do the Nigella Lawson method and use a good quality Oyster Sauce in a steak pie or stew instead of the wee beasties themselves - like anchovy essence in some meat dishes (Victorians and ancient Romans loved it) it really adds something.

[BrandNewGuy]

Deep-fried in breadcrumbs. Delicious.

[Seabag]

Ok ok, I just figured out the oyster place.

Bentley's it isn't, but I did speak to the new guy at the Deli near Biff. As it turns out, he had a fish shop in Chelsea opposite Bibendum

He's sold that and has the deli, he's called Manuel and will add a fish section at the back

Oysters will feature, but not pinks or seafood sticks or yellow haddock, or boil in the bag kippers

[Louisa]

Yeah because kippers and smoked haddock are disgusting in comparison to a tonne of snot inside a wannabe ashtray shell.

Maybe being working class, I should start embracing this old tradition. Or is it only the preserve of the pretentious foodies nowadays?

Louisa.

[Louisa]

And JoeLeg try telling this lot food is above snobbery. They're like a rat up a drainpipe when it comes to thumping the fox and I back into our circus tent when we feel the need to express an opinion about food. YES snobbery works both AND equally SOME people but, eat and share their experiences about CERTAIN food types not because they genuinely enjoy them, but more because they enjoy being gratified at the thought of the amount of lolly they've spent on said food.

Louisa.

[Alex K]

edcam Wrote:

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> If Louisa and Dulwich Fox don't like something,

> you can almost certainly guarantee it's worth

> trying!

**love**

[jacks09]

Louisa Wrote:

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> And JoeLeg try telling this lot food is above

> snobbery. They're like a rat up a drainpipe when

> it comes to thumping the fox and I back into our

> circus tent when we feel the need to express an

> opinion about food. YES snobbery works both AND

> equally SOME people but, eat and share their

> experiences about CERTAIN food types not because

> they genuinely enjoy them, but more because they

> enjoy being gratified at the thought of the amount

> of lolly they've spent on said food.

>

> Louisa.

So presumptuous. Why do you think you know what people actually think, feel or like?

I like Oysters, you don't. Who actually cares.

[DulwichFox]

They say oysters are an aphrodisiac ? they being scientists in 2005.

Well there are a lot of aphrodisiacs on the market and they all cost a small fortune ...

Funny what some people believe.. (That would make a good new Thread.. )

DulwichFox

[Seabag]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Yeah because kippers and smoked haddock are

> disgusting in comparison to a tonne of snot inside

> a wannabe ashtray shell.

>

> Maybe being working class, I should start

> embracing this old tradition. Or is it only the

> preserve of the pretentious foodies nowadays?

>

> Louisa.

Ohhh, did that touch a nerve. That's my point really, I'm not for digging anyone out, though I'm happy to whack the mole when it rears its blinded head

Live and let live I say, but that seems to upset those who want to spit out a load of old clap trap prejudice about oysters/class and the likes

Again you and that mange ridden sidekick take great pleasure in your guff, riding around the thread on the same old "we clever, you stupid" scooter

What you fail to acquire is the knowledge of that particular 'food staple' which covers the globe and thousands of years. Yet you and him act as if you've uncovered the greatest conspiracy on earth.

All the while and right under your noses you've been sold short by you and yours. Those lovely fish food traders that sell pinks, crab sticks, and the rest are the real con

Yellow haddock is dyed and not actually smoked (the real stuff is near white btw). And good kippers don't come in a bag, with a knob of butter, that's just the crap you've been fobbed off with for years

Really, it's quite tragic that in this day and age of the Internet at your fingertips, you and yours can't get to grips with these things

But for comedy value, you both are up there with UFO abductees and Chem trailers

And you walk among us

Heaven help

[Jeremy]

Even after it has been clearly demonstrated that oysters aren't necessarily expensive, the nonsense continues. If you can afford a couple of pints or a pack of fags now and again, you can afford oysters.

Seabag - thanks for your small injection of fact, amongst all the made up nonsense.

[Jeremy]

What are "pinks"?

[Louisa]

Seabag Wrote:

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>

> Live and let live I say, but that seems to upset

> those who want to spit out a load of old clap trap

> prejudice about oysters/class and the likes

One minute we get the above... Then... Your own prejudices rear their ugly head with this little cracker:

> Yellow haddock is dyed and not actually smoked

> (the real stuff is near white btw). And good

> kippers don't come in a bag, with a knob of

> butter, that's just the crap you've been fobbed

> off with for years

So you see, in reality, you don't "live and let live" do you?, you take great pleasure in denouncing any opinion which isn't in line with your own, and then to top it off you get personal about the specific food someone wants to eat. Consistency Seabag, that's all I ask for!

>

> Again you and that mange ridden sidekick take

> great pleasure in your guff, riding around the

> thread on the same old "we clever, you stupid"

> scooter

Didn't say I was clever and you or anyone else was stupid, don't think fox did either? I've read through it all twice now and nope still don't get that vibe. Think it's you disagreeing with us and then playing the same old card of fox and Louisa are talking rubbish again yada yada yawn.

>

> What you fail to acquire is the knowledge of that

> particular 'food staple' which covers the globe

> and thousands of years. Yet you and him act as if

> you've uncovered the greatest conspiracy on

> earth.

Think you think this all through with way too much complex analysis. I've tried Oysters, they taste like crap, and seem pointless. Simple as that really. I don't care how many thousands of millions of years they've been on the earth tbh.

>

> All the while and right under your noses you've

> been sold short by you and yours. Those lovely

> fish food traders that sell pinks, crab sticks,

> and the rest are the real con

>

Why are fishmongers a con? They sell something I like, I buy it because I like the taste. They sell something you like, you buy it because of the price. Simple as that really.

>

> Really, it's quite tragic that in this day and age

> of the Internet at your fingertips, you and yours

> can't get to grips with these things

>

> But for comedy value, you both are up there with

> UFO abductees and Chem trailers

>

> And you walk among us

>

> Heaven help

Oh I've got to grips with it all. I've been on the earth long enough to get to grips with a lot of things, it's just sad that I can't have an opinion without being shouted down and made to look stupid for that opinion. That's all.

Louisa.