Renata Hamvas Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Sadly, there has been a fatal traffic accident at the Elephant and Castle Roundabout/New Kent Road. The New Kent Road is currently closed and therefore avoid the Elephant and Castle area if you are able to, as there is currently significant traffic congestion.Renata Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/93138-avoid-elephant-and-castlenew-kent-road-area-road-closure/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 This it what happens when you take away underground crossings. The works aren't even completed and already a needless death. Well done Southwark Planning. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/93138-avoid-elephant-and-castlenew-kent-road-area-road-closure/#findComment-958300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneybewes Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Blah Blah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> This it what happens when you take away> underground crossings. The works aren't even> completed and already a needless death. Well done> Southwark Planning.Lorry driver arrested for dangerous driving. Again. But yes, let's blame it on Southwark Planning instead. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/93138-avoid-elephant-and-castlenew-kent-road-area-road-closure/#findComment-958308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Dangerous driving can mean impatient driving trying to navigate a much reduced road layout. Still remains that crossings that don't bring pedestrians into any contact with traffic are safer - so why remove them? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/93138-avoid-elephant-and-castlenew-kent-road-area-road-closure/#findComment-958312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
se22cat Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 "so why remove them?" surely not bungs from developers...?outhwark would never do that surely? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/93138-avoid-elephant-and-castlenew-kent-road-area-road-closure/#findComment-958313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townleygreen Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I think it's TFL not Southwark who are responsible for that roundabout etc. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/93138-avoid-elephant-and-castlenew-kent-road-area-road-closure/#findComment-958389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Maybe the councillor could clarify that? Either way, to remove subways that ensured pedestrians didn't come into contact with traffic, and to remove the safe island crossings for cyclists, that meant they didn't have to (as they now do) navigate compacted vehicles and take a leap of faith to change lanes, are not decisions that can be defined as improving safety. Something does not make sense in the planning or design of this new layout. And sadly someone has now died.The comments under the article I posted are rather interesting, particularly with regards to the forthcoming redevelopment of the area. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/93138-avoid-elephant-and-castlenew-kent-road-area-road-closure/#findComment-958642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Yes it's tfl...https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-projects/elephant-and-castleThe site has a face to contact....a sponsorship manager - says it all really. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/93138-avoid-elephant-and-castlenew-kent-road-area-road-closure/#findComment-958643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 It's even worse now they are doing works by the shopping centre which has narrowed access to one lane - traffic backing up to beyond Bricklayers Arms, and this is half term week FFS.Before I go on a tirade against TfL I'll wait to see the final outcome. Any delay to buses encourages people to switch back to their cars which of course defeats the whole purpose of the scheme. Cycle ride is longer and more dangerous. Ditto.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35026096 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/93138-avoid-elephant-and-castlenew-kent-road-area-road-closure/#findComment-963604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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