reggie Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 In order to hilight the issue of file sharing, Sly and Reggie,the East Dulwich Middle Class Warriors, have released the track 'Priceless'Download the track right now from this downloading site.Download NowBlog Post from the Suburban Piratehttp://www.thesuburbanpirate.com/PRICELESS_AW.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Much as I respect your brand of facile idiocy reggie, you reached a new low there.None of the clicks work, I saw your wordpress feature, which said nothing, and following links sent me in a circle.I'm sure that niggling my middle class logic will send you and your pot smoking friends into a paroxysm of giggles, but gosh, you'll find it difficult to get a fan base. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 I was thinking of you Huguenot when launching this campaign and thought you might like this one...seriously.It is the campaign that is least likely, as you say, to get a fan base and therefore could be the most noble in your eyes. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 No no no! :))I was being literal.I can't see it, hear it, whatever it is. Not because I'm blind or deaf, but because the links send me in a circle. I'm probably being stupid, but it seems to want to make me pay a million, which is a bit ambitious.I meant, you'll find it difficult to get a fanbase if they can't see it or hear it.How do I see it or hear it? Can't you put it on youtube or something? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karter Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 lol, i nearly choked on my cornflakes when i opened this thread and clicked on the link. Nice one reggie.:)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 "Priceless" keeping Michael Jackson off the Number One slot.http://www.thesuburbanpirate.com/number%20one%20screenshot.jpghttp://twitpic.com/x9n1k Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monica Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Reggie sweetie in a word utterly priceless, SNUB have few new projects, Il pm you the details so you can write the next Soundtracks. x Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggirl Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Yes but "ebay" for goodness sake. It's hardly living on the front line now is it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I still don't get it - can other people hear the track?Is the joke that you can't hear the track?*Drums fingers, scratches head* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 I just got an email from a Radio One DJ asking for an mp3 of "Priceless".I told him he would have to rob a bank to pay for a copy.This is a campaign about file sharing and the value of artistic expression on the internet."The artist right to giveIs not the people's right to take"The Million Pound Download Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 There's a guy on trial at the moment in the UK for illegal file sharing who ran the OINK bit torrent site.Police found ?200,000 in his paypal account from subscribers.Nice work if you can get it but illegal file sharing aint about your human rights. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 So is the campaign just this - a fake track for 1 million pounds?It seems a bit weak. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted January 11, 2010 Author Share Posted January 11, 2010 No the track is real, we recorded it last week.The campaign is about choice.Once a piece of creative work is on the web,its creator has no control over it.The consumer can then decide to get it for free or pay for it.So if you want the track 'Priceless' by Sly and Reggie it costs ?1,000,000.And its not available anywhere else. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bon3yard Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Give me UB40 anyday. ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-283995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Interesting idea this one, it's a bit like trees falling in woods.Presumably this track is unlikely to attract its reserve price, which means no purchase will be made, and no punter gets to hear it.The protest can't be sustained unless the track is never released - because if it is, the absence of the 1m purchase will have prompted free distribution, and proven that the internet can influence an artist's choices over their music distribution even when they DON'T put it on the web.Hence the creator would never have actually had any control over it.However, control is exercised if the music is not released, but then how can we be sure that there was ever a bit of music in the first place? Without the music, the artists can't demonstrate control, so the original premise is lost anyway. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
5imon Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 ..and with that, he disappeared in a puff of logic Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Music sharing has been around for years (else those dual cassette machines had a market that I never knew about). Nowadays it has gone global and very, very easy. The old music business model is now, therefore, broken. Actual CDs still have value, but paid-for downloads will either have to be DRM crippled (and therefore of lower value) or non-DRM'd and therefore shareable.DRM annoys people. People (i.e. consumers) are finding out that the track you paid full price for is only playable on one machine and if that breaks, you've lost your cash. People (consumers) hate the fact that the DVD they bought in the US won't play at home. Even DRM is fairly useless in the long term - the techies are always one step ahead, DMCA type laws or otherwise.The logical conclusion is that artists in the future will have to to find a new business model. Probably it will be to treat releases as advertising for their live shows, rather than an income stream, with some revenue from CD's and services like YouTube and Spotify. Pandora has already opened the box, and that is your only Hope. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted January 11, 2010 Author Share Posted January 11, 2010 This one is still in the boxThe Million Dollar Download Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofmarkthedog Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 ReggieWith all "respec" this is a bit "Toss" isn't itI mean NLP has gone a bit OCD here hasn't itGet tantric now & engage your base chakra ( before my right boot does )PeaceW**F Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 But, reggie, you don't have the control you think. It's essentially the same as saying, "I've found a way to keep my children completely safe. I lock them in the cellar 24/7".Musicians rarely just like to play to themselves - they like to show their talents off to the world. Due to your aversion to the downloading set, you are now prevented from showing that song off to the world - so you have, in essence, lost control. You've placed a price upon your song and the world has rejected it. The world is no worse off, but you now have a song no one will hear. You've taken your bat and ball and gone home, so now no one gets to play. Including you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Thank heavens. It wasn't just me. 'Tis tru I was locked in a logical smellhole though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 Loz,This is not about Sly and Reggie music it's a campaign about file sharing and I reckon the song makes a greater effect at the moment by not being heard.And the world hasn't rejected the track, it just hasn't been bought...... yet.Priceless by Sly and ReggieClick this link now for your download Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsebox Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 But how do we know the track even exists? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 So reggie, you're against file sharing yes? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 Horsebox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> But how do we know the track even exists?When you buy it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9463-file-sharing-pricelessthe-new-protest-track-from-sly-and-reggie/#findComment-284895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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