Hillsboro Road is NOT a 1 way street

[Domitianus]

Class wars apart, I see no reason why, if Hillsboro Road is such a log-jam, children shouldn't be encouraged to walk the length of themselves to pick-up points in rather less congested areas. If the Alleyns' parents have been organised enough to 'agree' a one-way traffic system, the arrangement of what I have just suggested should be wee buns!

I went to a very old and prestigious school in Belfast City Centre during the 1980s (Troubles still very prevalent) and every day I and hundreds of other pupils from same school walked the couple of hundred yards to the City Hall bus terminus to board a variety of different routes to different parts of the city/province. The notion that children need to be picked up directly outside their own school is quite ridiculous! If we were talking about a nursery or primary school the situation might be a little different but this 'difficulty' seems to be one of the parents' own making.

[lillyanginger]

Are we not talking about the Infant and Junior School here - reception to year 6? This is the school with an entrance in Hillsborough...

[Penguin68]

pepsi wrote:-

Are you inferring that middle class people "value and love" their children more than other people? -

1. I think you mean 'imply', not 'infer'

2. I was being ironic - I had assumed by your use of 'precious babes' that you were suggesting that Alleyn's parents were unreasonably fond and caring of their children - I used a 'reductio ad absurdum' metaphore to point this out. I assume that all reasonable parents care for their children and want to do the best by them, regardless of their social origins or aspirations.

3. I am sorry I missed the fact that your post was light-hearted, clearly however my light-hearted response was as opaque to you.

[iaineasy]

BLAH BLAH BLAh

make it a red route end of arguments.b

[Domitianus]

lillyanginger Wrote:

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> Are we not talking about the Infant and Junior

> School here - reception to year 6? This is the

> school with an entrance in Hillsborough...

If that is so my point is a little less valid but in a previous post I did assume we were talking about ten year olds or more and was not corrected. If we are talking about very young kids, then let the PARENTS do the walking. Park a couple of hundred yards away, walk down to school, collect your kids and take them back to the car.

[pepsi]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> pepsi wrote:-

>

> Are you inferring that middle class people "value

> and love" their children more than other people? -

>

>

> 1. I think you mean 'imply', not 'infer'

>

> 2. I was being ironic - I had assumed by your use

> of 'precious babes' that you were suggesting that

> Alleyn's parents were unreasonably fond and caring

> of their children - I used a 'reductio ad

> absurdum' metaphore to point this out. I assume

> that all reasonable parents care for their

> children and want to do the best by them,

> regardless of their social origins or

> aspirations.

>

> 3. I am sorry I missed the fact that your post was

> light-hearted, clearly however my light-hearted

> response was as opaque to you.

1. No - I meant infer. No need for English lessons from you thanks.

2. This was very unclear from your post.

3. Yes, it was.

[TheAllSeeingEye]

Directly outside, and within several hundred yards, of most schools you cannot park anyhow. I think this issue has become a storm in a teacup based purely on far too many people being bone idle, nothing more.

[Domitianus]

Today's Independent:

"'Less than half of under-10s walk to school'.

Children The number of British primary school pupils walking to school has fallen to less than half, figures released yesterday indicate. The Office for National Statistics reported that in 2008 48 per cent of under-10s walked to school, a drop from the 62 per cent who walked to school in the 1989 to 1991 period. The corresponding data for the number of youngsters being driven to school jumped from 27 to 43 per cent over the same time-frame."

interesting?

[Asset]

I live on Hillsboro and it most definitely is not a storm in a teaup. Causes much amusement watching the manoeuvres at times unless I'm trying to get in or out of the street myself of course and then it's not funny.

I had a letter through the door several years ago regarding this voluntary one way system but as I never see any evidence of it I assumed they'd given up. Would be nice if we knew which way the direction was supposed to be.

I was told that Alleyn's have been lobbying the council for some time to get it officially one-way - nice of them to consult the residents.

There has been a few metres of double yellow lines painted recently at the ED Grove entrance to the road - obviously these are completely ignored when kids are being dropped off but things move a bit more smoothly as cars can't actually park there all day.

[TheAllSeeingEye]

I still maintain its based on laziness, or perhaps lateness. Surely it is quicker to park 200yards away and walk, than to drive right to the very school and then be trapped for ages with too many vehicles in the way.

[Asset]

Of course it is. Ideally, the children wouldn't be driven to school at all. There isn't anywhere to park though around these streets really, 200 yds (how quaint) away is full of cars too.

[Asset]

Can I just point out that Knackered Cow was doing the school run - in her CAR - thus compounding the problem surely.

[Townleygreen]

Good points Asset, well made. Is it possible for them to park on E Dulwich Grove at any point? I presume not!

[knackered cow]

Yes, Asset, I do drive to take my son to school! People are perfectly entitled to use their cars to take their children to school and drive on any public road they want! What we can do, if walking or public transport isn't possible, is partake in school runs and think about where we park to help with road congestion. We have the same problem at my sons school with people parking near the gates and causing safety issues but I leave myself enough time and park a few minutes away, is this acceptable???

[Curmudgeon]

kangyu Wrote:

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> I was happily doing my usual school run route when

> I hit some congestion on Hillsboro Road. This is

> not unusual but on most occasions it sorts itself

> easily. However, the other day NY Escort when I

> saw the congestion, I past what I thought were

> parked cars NY Escorts dropping children of at

> Alleyn's and I pulled into a gap, I was NY Asian

> Escorts soon approached by an angry man that

> accused me of being stupid and couldn't I see that

> they were waiting. NO I couldn't, I thought you

> were parked! Anyway, it wasn't long before a woman

> joined in to say, very nicely, that the parents of

> Alleyn's have a rule that Hillsboro Road is a one

> way street that NY Asian Escort comes down from

> the opposite direction I was going in. I was

> getting fed up at this point so smiled, said it

> wasn't usually a problem and swiftly turned round

> to change my route.

> As the day went on I kept thinking how cheeky it

> was that parents of Alleyn's have decided to

> change driving restrictions on a PUBLIC road. I do

> appreciate it's difficult to find parking near any

> school for morning drop off and it's also a

> problem at my child's school but why don't you try

> parking a little further away, I DO! Many of us

> residents of nearby streets are perfectly entitled

> to use Hillsboro Road anyway we want, THANKS!

What the hell does that mean?

[ryedalema]

I think it's spam - it's in the family discussion section too.

[joel devlin]

The last time I checked, Townley Road was big enough for a 'drop off'.