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message5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Ginster February 05, 11:05AM

Burst water main. Just saw them put cones out blocking road in both directions



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messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Ginster February 05, 11:32AM

Buses diverting via Barry Rd so headed toward LL roundabout the first bus stop with any buses 185,176 is Dulwich Library

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by swinds82 February 05, 11:32AM

Indeed - avoid!
Just to add Lordship Lane is closed in both directions from Grove Tavern to the Horniman.

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Penguin68 February 05, 11:50AM

Just to add Lordship Lane is closed in both directions from Grove Tavern to the Horniman.

Technically I think that stretch (which is the A205 South Circular) is London Road.



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messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by dbboy February 05, 11:52AM

From TfL "LORDSHIP LANE, SE22: Buses are diverted in both directions due to emergency waterworks on Lordship Lane. Routes 176 185 and 197 are diverted via Barry Road, Peckham Rye, Forest Hill Road and Honor Oak Road, and buses are unable to serve stops between Dulwich Library and Horniman Museum. Route 363 is diverted via Honor Oak Road and buses are unable to serve stops between Wood Vale/Forest Hill Road and Lordship Lane/Wood Vale. Route P4 is unable to serve the Lordship Lane/Wood Vale stop. Route P13 is unable to serve the Grove Tavern stop."

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Penguin68 February 05, 11:52AM

The P13 travelling towards Forest Hill seems to be dumping its customers at the Underhill/ Barry junction (at least I saw one do that) - maybe later buses are doing so at the bus stop before.

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Bic Basher February 05, 11:57AM

Penguin68 Wrote:
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> Just to add Lordship Lane is closed in both
> directions from Grove Tavern to the Horniman.
>
> Technically I think that stretch (which is the
> A205 South Circular) is London Road.

London Road starts at the junction with Wood Vale. P4's seem to be going up Lordship Lane towards the library.

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Penguin68 February 05, 12:10PM

London Road starts at the junction with Wood Vale. OK - I had assumed it was London Road when it was the A205 - which it is where the A205 swings round at the Grove Tavern. But Google maps supports London Road starting at Wood Vale.

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by B+ February 06, 08:14AM

Honor Oak Road is nose to tail this morning very very slow, give Forest Hill a very wide berth

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Siduhe February 06, 09:34AM

Not helped by the idiots driving on the wrong side of the road through the “road closed” signs, to discuovet the road is indeed CLOSED [who would have thought it?]. Cue lots of three point turns, including from an articulated Screwfix lorry which got stuck. Police motorbike rider on scene as of 20 mins ago to help with traffic control.

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Applespider February 06, 10:01AM

I watched people drive down Sydenham Hill this morning - discover no right turn (road layout means that’s only option) so they took a left. Unfortunately that meant driving into the green filter lane for oncoming traffic trying to get up the hill. As Wood Vale is open, there were a few. The mind boggles 😳

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by keano77 February 06, 10:12AM

Query: how would driverless cars, which are supposed to be on our roads within a year, know that roads have been shut at short notice for emergency repairs, accidents or even Southwark school road closure days?

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by intexasatthe moment February 06, 10:18AM

"I watched people drive down Sydenham Hill this morning - discover no right turn (road layout means that’s only option) so they took a left"

I'm so confused - I thought when you drove down Sydenham Hill (with recreation ground on your right ,estate on your left ) you could only turn left ?

What am I missing ????

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Applespider February 06, 10:28AM

Nothing - just my left and right are mixed up this morning 😝

Driverless cars - probably easier than drivers. The electronic traffic maps showed the closures pretty quickly.

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by keano77 February 06, 10:32AM

I think you are both right.

Yes to have to turn left normally. But now you need to turn right in front of the Horniman towards Forest Hill.

But the road layout means it’s difficult to turn right which probably explains why the articulated lorry mentioned above had to turn left and do a three point turn.

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by intexasatthe moment February 06, 10:32AM

Phew ! Thought I'd really lost it then .

Can anyone tell me the 197 route heading south from Peckham to Croydon .Is it missing Barry Rd and going up Forest Hill Rd and along Wood Vale ?

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closedattachment
Posted by dbboy February 06, 10:33AM

“Total gridlock as @thameswater’s tri-annual water feature on London Road rips up the tarmac and forces traffic onto the Horniman Heights."

copied from [twitter.com]

P13, P4 - LORDSHIP LANE, SE22: Routes P4 and P13 are diverted due to emergency waterworks on Lordship Lane. Route P4 is diverted via Lordship Lane, Barry Road, Forest Hill Road and Wood Vale, and is unable to serve the Lordship Lane/Wood Vale stops. Route P13 is diverted via Lordship Lane and Barry Road, and is unable to serve stops between Underhill Road/Melford Road and Friern Road.

363 - LORDSHIP LANE, SE22: Route 363 is diverted due to emergency waterworks on Lordship Lane. Buses are diverted northbound via Honor Oak Road and buses are unable to serve stops between Wood Vale/Forest Hill Road and Lordship Lane/Wood Vale. Buses are diverted southbound via Honor Oak Road, London Road, Dartmouth Road and Kirkdale, and are unable to serve stops between Wood Vale/Forest Hill Road and Horniman Park.

176, 185, 197 - LORDSHIP LANE, SE22: Routes 176 185 and 197 are diverted via Barry Road, Peckham Rye, Forest Hill Road and Honor Oak Road due to emergency waterworks on Lordship Lane, and buses are unable to serve stops between Dulwich Library and Horniman Museum.



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messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Siduhe February 06, 10:36AM

To be clear, the lorry was coming from Forest Hill on the South Circular towards East Dulwich - he and at least 10 other cars drove around the "road closed" signs by the petrol station, and again by the Sydenham Hill turning, then got stuck just before the road works opposite Wood Vale (i.e. on the other side of the road). Total idiots.

The right turn from Sydenham Hill seemed to be working ok other than the fact that people were ignoring the road closed signs the other way.



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messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by keano77 February 06, 10:54AM

Fair enough Siduhe, no excuse then

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Bic Basher February 06, 11:11AM

intexasatthe moment Wrote:
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> Phew ! Thought I'd really lost it then .
>
> Can anyone tell me the 197 route heading south
> from Peckham to Croydon .Is it missing Barry Rd
> and going up Forest Hill Rd and along Wood Vale ?


176, 185, 197 and 363 are using Honor Oak Road.

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by intexasatthe moment February 06, 11:11AM

"But now you need to turn right in front of the Horniman towards Forest Hill."

when you say turn right in front of the Horniman are you talking about traffic coming down Sydenham Rise ? Sydenham Hill joins the main road well before the Horniman if I recall .

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by dbboy February 06, 11:18AM

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messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by intexasatthe moment February 06, 11:38AM

Bic Basher thanks .



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messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by keano77 February 06, 11:38AM

intexasatthe moment Wrote:
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> "But now you need to turn right in front of the
> Horniman towards Forest Hill."
>
> when you say turn right in front of the Horniman
> are you talking about traffic coming down Sydenham
> Rise ? Sydenham Hill joins the main road well
> before the Horniman if I recall .

I mean Sydenham Hill, turning right by the Horniman Play Park towards the Horniman museum. It’s a tight right-hand turn because of the road layout and traffic lights.

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by intexasatthe moment February 06, 11:49AM

ok thanks ,think I've got it now !

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Bic Basher February 06, 04:13PM

The bus drivers seem to be diverting any way they like. I saw a 185 go up East Dulwich Road instead of going along LL to the library. The P13 I was on going towards Streatham went the normal way along Underhill Road and Melford Road, while the one I was on going to Sainsbury's went up Barry Road.

The P4 went to Goose Green and East Dulwich Road.



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messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Sue February 06, 05:06PM

Bic Basher Wrote:
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> The bus drivers seem to be diverting any way they
> like. I saw a 185 go up East Dulwich Road instead
> of going along LL to the library. The P13 I was
> on going towards Streatham went the normal way
> along Underhill Road and Melford Road, while the
> one I was on going to Sainsbury's went up Barry
> Road.
>
> The P4 went to Goose Green and East Dulwich Road.


Maybe they are being sent different ways to avoid individual roads being clogged up with buses?

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Pugwash February 06, 05:09PM

176 today to Forest Hill went Barry Road, Forest Hill Road, Honor Oak Road. Later coming back 176 decided not to go up Barry Road and went to East Dulwich Road instead - had to catch a 12 back to the Plough.

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by mary123 February 06, 06:24PM

Lordship lane diversion.. pain!!!! Day Two..
Please update post when you know it's back to normal..

messageRe: 5th Feb 11am - avoid Woodvale Horniman area. Road closed
Posted by Applespider February 06, 10:35PM

Thames Water Twitter feed says their permit lasts til Fri pm. There may not be a quick resolution 😣


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