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or just use google mas in terrain mode http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.441811,-0.057678&spn=0.059063,0.122051&t=p&z=13

I'm pretty sure there are other fora that fit that bill rosie.

It was done at the suggestion of other forumites, it has now been moved back at the complaints of others. We may flip flop but never let it be said we don't listen.

Btw I'm not comparing the slut march to the balloons. I rather like outlandish gestures that challenge social mores and give witnesses pause for thought. I think it does have a chance of affecting the way people think, and if it means one less rape happens then it's worth doing. But mostly it provokes this sort of debate and that can only be healthy.

I would have thought deep seated sectarian hatred is worthybof fighting against too. In fact there it's the tyranny of the extreme minority against the vast majority, 'just opposing tribes' is staggeringly dismissive and patronising. Now you talk of an anti Semitic, or I guess oppressive to women, state. That's a while different kettle of fish. I'm reminded of my time at uni when the women's society released thousands of balloons saying 'stop women's rape in bosnia', whilst I applauded the sentiment I couldn't imagine a more impotent or futile gesture, unless there happened to be a Bosnian Serb general wandering through Stoke experiencing a damascene moment upon seeing a balloon. I suggested they're better off volunteering at the UN or joining up in Sarajevo and got an earful for my troubles. Anyway, in my attempts to curb digression I seem to have become the worst offender.

Alot of these are poor analogies. A woman does have the right to wear whatever she likes without being attacked, but of course that doesn't mean she should wear things like that whenever she wants just because she can, and these two things seem to be being conflated. If someone turned up in stockings and a basque to my mums funeral shed get a verbal attack for sure. As for the Jew in, well I'm not sure what hypothetical area is being described, Hamas HQ, but the situation you describes applies to large parts of Belfast and experience has taught people it doesn't matter what your rights are, you don't flaunt things in the wrong part of town, and though we can all agree that it is wrong that one gets attacked, that person has indeed brought it on themselves in the full knowledge that that what was going to happen regardless of the right or wrong of the situation. I reiterate here that this analogy simply doesn't apply to a woman wearing 'provocative' clothing whatever that means. It is incorrect for this topic. That analogy would apply if women marched for the right to walk down deserted back allies at night in dodgy estates regardless of dress. Yes we should all be allowed to do it without fear of attack, but anyone with half a brain doesn't exercise it. I'll ponder az while for a better analogy for this topic.

Sharp metal rods, spades, clubs, Stone Roses' The Second Coming....well, I liked it. All good for one or two at a time, but it's the overwhelming numbers that do you in the end. I did like the blind samurai in World War Z who survived the whole ordeal in the middle of a remote field with a sword and lopped their heads off one at a time as they rarely came in more than twos and threes.

Not the best of the trilogy, but perhaps the most misanthropic. Is snorky actually George a Romero do you think? It was a guardianista-slaughter-fantasy-fest

Romero's 4th instalment, land of the dead just starting on ITV4

World war z seconded, one of mynfavourite books full stop, forget the Austen vs dickens debate. He said their danger ismin the lack of fear and inability to be stopped unless completely destroyed, the battle of Yonkers is a truly scary chapter.

You could Abbreviate the title to PeN15 Forum perhaps? .... I'll get my coat.....

"his image has appeared has an alleged rapist and mud sticks" Depressingly I get the feeling young Premiership footballers* consider this a badge of honour these days :-( *Not a problem for my club any more, hurrah.

Wow, I've just realised that the director of Scott Pilgrim Versus the World, Wright, is Edgar Wright of Spaced & Sean of the Dead fame. It would seem that Simon Pegg may not have actually been his muse after all, but may have been holding him back!!! And that would explain why every single scene is packed with a dizzying array of cultural references from cinematic classics through horror and pop to, of course, video gaming. It comes close to genius frankly!

This thread or the computer games thread? Aah this one. "We are Sexbobomb and we are here to make the funniest film I've seen in a long time!!!!!!!!" Also on my transatlantic sorties Paul, mildly funny, self indlugent nerdfest. The Eagle, hackneyed, cliched homoerotic adventure that I swear is actually Last of the Mohicans in the second reel with CGI faces of the new actors pasted on, but for all that actually quite fun. Killing Bono, sort of Withnail and I meets The Commitments without being nearly as good as either but again passed muster as entertainment, and I'd love to know how much of it is true.

I had an issue with the too posh to clean thing and argued with the missus for years about it. Then we had the mocklet and, as my sister-in-law said when she persuaded me, it's the best 30 quid a week you can possibly spend. Invaluable. Ours came through personal recommendation from our neighbour, she's an absolute star and terrifies the mocklet with her enthusiastic kisses every time, but she's not available to do any more in this neck of the woods I'm afraid.

You're not the only one you know, I've noticed a significant increase in moping from the lovesick mocklet!! Anyway, chin up old girl, I was exactly the same when I was on holiday last week, spent the last 3 days of 5 in the big apple whinging to missus mockers about how much i missed the wee boy.

I've read it and it's actually a very good book, a brilliant bit of revisionism, but I did find rather misses the point. From a historiographical point of view it's a book that needed writing and in terms of military history is important in the canon. But by stripping away the war is perceived in the popular imagination and ancestral bones as it were, you're losing the impact it had on society, and indeed the military. These perceptions changed the way we fought the second world war (both the Russians and the Yanks thought we were overly cautious much to their mutual consternation) because we were never as a society going to go through the trauma of 14-18 again. That doesn't mean I don't recommend it, I do, just remind yourself occasionally to look beyond the figures and stats.

"Your card company will not reinburse you if your card is cloned. You are not insured." Actually they will as happened to me. to be fair they probably should have put a stop to my withdrawing my cash limit everyday from an ATM in Benin whilst also phoning them up complaining that I can't get money out of ATMs in London. Alarm bells should have rung on day 1, not day 4!!

KK, there is potentially a world of difference between wanting to twat Lloyd Grossman and wanting to fuck him, but I must say I'm loving the ambiguity of it all.

I met 3D Monster Maze in the summer holiday of 1981...etc...

A very spanish way of looking at things is El diablo sabe m?s por viejo que por diablo. The devil knows more because he's old than because he's the devil. It has layers of interpretation, but basically it means wisdom comes with age.

Frankito Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yawn > > *pees in the dorner again* I'm pretty sure she'd be very upset about this!!!

The Irish would have been far more likely to have been slaves than slave owners, though I guess there would have been some protestant grandees who would have been owners, but I think people forget just how many Irish did end up in slavery across the empire. It doesn't even figure largely in the Irish narrative, hugely overshadowed by famine and revolt, but it's likely the figure was in the hundreds of thousands over a century and a half or more.

Actually I think yours were a more accurate description than mine, and yes, Irish.

Missus Mockney is full of them, and itching seems to feature prominently. Left hand gain money, right hand you're going to get into an argument soon. Left ear someone speaks about you, I can't remember the right ear. Magpies, ladders, you name it. The only one she truly believes is that if i say 'ooh, traffic is surprisingly good' that we're screwed.