Have any of you been watching Adam Curtis' documentary about freedom all gone wrong. Boiled down to it's bare minimum it says that much of our post war social topography (particularly post 70s) has been driven by theories from mathematicians who modelled us all as being inherently selfish creatures wh oare always trying to get one over everybody else to maximise our own chances of survival/income/comfort/breeding lines. The problem being that this basis for the model of a market led society was ultimately bollocks, and we do have things like social bonds and altruism. Interesting stuff, though he does push it on ocassion (Yes Minister as thatcherite propaganda anyone?!?!) Oh yeah, foxes. pigeons are nice in Letchworth and manky in london. Same goes for foxes, it's not the noisy sex that annoys me, no worse than drunken students heading back to halls on denmark hill, it's the nasty mangyness. Pest like any other i say. To paraphrase, a pigeon is a rat with wings, a fox is a big rat with good PR.