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Brian, see your point - but I can't see getting the work stopped is going to happen, and is a separate point really anyway. Interesting about the increased speeds since the resurfacing.

How about 'In the light of the number and severity of accidents regularly happening on Forest Hill Road, we call for a thorough investigation of traffic levels and dangers on Forest Hill Road, London SE22, followed by appropriate traffic-calming measures for the safety of road users and local residents alike'?

Right, I've had enough of this preposterous lack of action on Forest Hill Road. Those screen shots are damning. Am emailing all my councillors and MP again now. Should we/could we get a petition up? Seems futile given what's happened on Scutari. Just WTF is going on here? Who sanctions this spending in the face of the clear consensus of the people living and using the roads? GRRRRRR.

To my knowledge (via some excellent local history books I bought at Chener on L Lane) D K Hill is so called because it used to be covered in, er, dog kennels. They were for Hoorays who would come out from town to what was then the country and hire hounds to attempt to polish off some wildlife. It's also why, I presume, the blocks in the LCC-built East Dulwich Estate are named after hunts - Quorn etc.

Oh yeah, it looking cool is what I'm after. Not working out which plane woke me up again this morning.

Actually the first thing they need is something to transit. Then they need roads. Then, eventually, they need more sophisticated forms of public transport than rickshaws/tuk tuks/buses. That's a long way down the road, pun intended. And even then it's striking that transport is merely an enabler, not a creator, of success. East Croydon has amazing public transport. Doesn't stop it being pretty grim, but does help it function.

Aha. Interesting, thanks. Obviously there's no ulterior motive for them choosing 7am as the start time...

Always interests me that the webtrak site (http://webtrak.bksv.com/lhr) only starts its playback from 7am, implying that's when the flights start... randombloke, you'll find LBA's flightpath a lot noisier now! I don't think it's enough to say everywhere in the SE is noisy because of planes - big chunks of it aren't. And I just don't see that the pollution of so many millions of people's lives by dragging vast numbers of big planes over a city the size of London with only 5 hours off in each 24 hour period is sustainable in the end. Hope I'm right.

yeah even I would put other stuff ahead of transport. But individual MPs rarely make a difference on these things (although I can think of exceptions). And forget it if you're looking to S Council for anything on transport. The contrast with neighbouring boroughs like Lewisham and Lambeth is stark.

Forget Whitechapel to Paddington at the moment, and the bus - achingly slow. The point is trying to uncover potentially useful connections at C Junction. I struggle with this too. Worth remembering there are trains from HOP/FH to C Junction at the moment, which are sometimes useful when coming in from Dorset or Surrey etc. Once the H and C upgrade (3 years to go or so I think) is done Whitechapel will be a goer for connections to town, although Paddington will still be too far away. Once Crossrail's in the game will change again of course, but that's not until 2019. Bic Basher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > cyclinginstructor Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I travel to bath regularly from east Dulwich. > I > > wonder if there will be a better service from > > clapham junction. At the moment i would have > to > > catch the very slow train from waterloo or go > to > > reading to catch the service from paddington. > Not > > sure if there will be any benefit in terms of > > travel time. > > Not really, you could use the ELL to change at > Whitechapel for the Hammersmith & City for > Paddington, although I'd use the Jubilee to Baker > Street then the Bakerloo or Circle/H&C. In that > time you might find it quicker to get the 176 or > 40 to the Elephant and get the Bakerloo to Pad. > Once Crossrail opens in 2019, then you will see > those journey times decrease as you'll be able to > change at Whitechapel.

I too complained about the speeds reached on this particular stretch and was told something would be done. We're still waiting. The problem is obvious - especially heading northbound and so downhill, once you've cleared the speed humps at the top of the road and if there are no pedestrians by The Rose pub/Mundania Road you then have a clear run all the way to or even through the lights just before the Park before jamming on the brakes for the speed camera by the Park (if you think it's working). So you've got a racetrack stretch between traffic calming measures. The speeds I used to see reached regularly (I mean at least seen twice a week, and I'm not talking about the small hours either) were insane - easily over 50mph straight past people's homes, the pub, bus stops, pedestrian crossings, the nursery etc. etc. I no longer live in Honor Oak but surely the local councillors must try to do something?

From what people in the Court have told me, the police are aware, statements were given at the time.

From what fellow neighbours have told me, the police are aware, statements were given at the time.

Crikey, this is worse than I'd thought. And 46 a month! I'm only paying just over 30 (admittedly with some healthcare provider deal) for Virgin Active.

For me the proposals are one third overkill, on third welcome and one third missed opportunity. The missed bit is the speed control - some shrubs aren't going to be enough. The stretch that sees crazy speeds is from beyond the junction with Wood Vale northbound or beyond the junction with Colyton Road northbound because it has no traffic lights, pedestrian crossings, speed cameras or speed humps.

I'd encourage everyone who wants to reform the scrap metal trade to have a look at this e-petition - and better still to sign it! E-petition for a cashless scrap metal trade

ha ha. Good work Fuschia.

LL, with respect, this is a load of cobblers. Sure, tackling the junctions at E and C is not for everyone. But there are gyratories in both directions, taking you around small roads so that you don't have to use the main junctions. It's also cobblers to say it's only for the seriously fit. I'm not seriously fit and I manage Forest Hill Road to Regent's Park in 40 minutes day in, day out. 45 if I'm feeling lazy, 30-35 if I put on those 'ferocious' bursts of speed you're mentioning. languagelounger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 25 mins by bike is great, for those that can do > it, am very glad very you. But huge numbers of > people cannot manage that. > > To cycle that fast down the Old and New Kent > roads, and to run the approaches to the bridges, > and the roundabouts, while avoiding giant > potholes, you need to be able to put sudden and > ferocious bursts of speed. Only the perfectly fit > and healthy can manage it. I think quite a lot of > people who try the cycle commute into town who > aren't that speedy get disillusioned very quickly > and give up once they've discovered how hair > raising it can be. > > Never managed it to Whitehall myself in less than > 40 minutes from Crystal Palace Road, and that was > when I was in my 20s.

Inspired, I tried doing this this very morning. Worked a treat. Made me remember the palmy days of trains from Honor Oak Park to Charing X direct - ended in 2009 I think. Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > the-e-dealer Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Hate the change at London Bridge but yes you > can > > do that. > > xxxxx > > The train from ED stops right next to the bridge > at London Bridge - all you do is walk a short > distance over the bridge to Platform 5/6. > > Takes less than a minute! > > Why would you need to go via Lewisham? Sounds > bonkers to me :))

Or train to Victoria from P Rye and then District/Circle eastbound

I was at a conference a few months ago where the announcer endeared herself to everyone by introducing herself as "The bing bong lady".

Whoever owns the yellow and blue place I do wish they'd let someone run a business from it, as I'm sure the right thing would do well - as it is it's just an eyesore. I'm a big fan of Si M as a good local Italian resto. The Herne - never had the food, love the decor, the garden's not up to much, the beer's far too pricey.

reggie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Trouble is when we stand up for the weak and > defenceless we often use language which is weak > and defenceless. That is an excellent point, excellently put.

This route makes intuitive sense to me; really useful post. wongo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I drive to Nottingham fairly often and my > preferred route to the M1 (from Sydenham Hill) is > as follows: > > South Croxted/Croxted > Rd/HerneHill/Brixton/Stockwell/Vauxhall Bridge > Rd/Victoria (follow the diversion sign here as > Wilton Rd by Victoria Stn and the Apollo Theatre > is closed to private vehicles ? a ?120 fine is you > go through) then Grosvenor Place/Park Lane/Edgware > Road but just before Maida Vale at the traffic > lights turn right turn into St Johns Wood Rd and > come out at the A41 roundabout. From there follow > the A41 to Swiss Cottage/Finchley Road and from > the follow the direction Brent Cross/M1. I avoid > Kilburn High Rd and Cricklewood at all times. The > A41 route traffic is normally moving even at peak > hours. Depending on traffic, journey time to the > MI is between 45 mind to an hour. > > I find going via Denmark > Hill/Camberwell/Kennington/Vauxhall Bridge Rd is > no more faster than Herne Hill > /Brixton/Stockwell/Vauxhall Bridge Rd

Yes I wonder that about frequency. Presumably the buses would be reassigned to other London routes? Too much bother to repaint etc and send somewhere else?