Loz

I'm in this picture, bottom of the right hand most chimney. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-d6lyOZxIK2I/UBQ8U65aKiI/AAAAAAAAGIc/eS7bOwZZ7oY/s1600/London2012.jpg

It doesn't get much more random than this post in the property section. http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?22,1401915

It's absolutely amazing. I've done a few bits of editing of home movies from ski holidays, cutting clips against a few songs and it's fiddly, to say the least. To find all the clips he needed to put the rap together and edit it in such a short time is truly incredible. And very funny.

Jah Lush beat you by a whole page, Otta.

If you have one just issued in the last month or so that has no perforations you should hang onto it. Apparently some saddo collector will buy it off you some day as they are rather rare. Something to so with extending the changeover date and they had to get osme emergency supplies printed up.

In my experience, it usually has a partly screwed up front page.

Parkdrive Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Or alternatively, he really is a bumbling idiot. If you believe that, you've completely fallen for the PR picture he wants to believe.

Putting the 'bush' in to Bushells.

Cameron: "On the 7th May you could go to bed with Nigel Farage and wake up with Ed Miliband". Made me laugh.

Based on that speech, Ed would have failed to get a job a McDonalds. 'Gareth' on the other hand, seems to be a rising star. The Guardian even sought his comments today on Cameron's speech, which essentially was "I didn't listen to it".

El Pibe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > George Monbiot has been really sh!t of late, I used to quite like him. I didn't always agree with his views (in fact, more not than often), but I liked reading his stuff as he does set out his arguments well and back them with credible stats and sources. But, agreed, he seems to have jumped the shark of late.

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah but if you had a thread for the Mail/Sun it would get tiresome to have to hyperlink to every > story outlining why this one is particularly inaccurate or offensive. > > At least in the Grauniad it's relatively rare (or just weekly in Polly Toynbee's case). Polly's not so bad. The worst charge you can level at her is being a bit of a rehasher of Labour PR releases. But there is Jessica Valenti, who seems to go out of her way to be wildly inaccurate and wildly offensive, and sadly gets published every couple of days. She could move to the Mail tomorrow, though even they might think she's a bit too offensive.

I thought all DVD and Blu-ray copy protection schemes were now broken?

kdsd77 - I hope Richard is at peace now and you and your family get though this horrible experience.

Keith Lemon. I just don't understand why he is so popular (at least with ITV execs).

Zebedee Tring Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Loz, to me there is more of a link between (a) the > idea that "there is no such thing as society" > (Maggie's notorious saying) and the Mail almost > ignoring the fact that this bloke's neighbours had > no idea that he'd been dead for some time than > between (b) a newspaper's choice of a man of the > match and its support of the Blackshirts. Disagree. In the case of the dead man, both were pretty unpleasant parts of a single incident. In this case, the Mail found a different angle to others. You can, as Otta has done, argue that one angle is better/more appropriate than the other, but comparing the alternative angle to a howling attack on 'society' is a little OTT. Besides, Maggie's 'notorious saying' needs to be taken in full context. It's a bit like saying Zebedee Tring posted there is "no such thing as society" in their post at 11.29 - true, but rather out of context. When you read Maggie's whole paragraph, what she said in whole wasn't really that controversial. In fact, you could easily argue that what she said sums up to 'from each according to ability, to each according to need'. (Now that's controversial!)

cle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > "OKR has nothing in terms of a destination, > just > > retail parks and rubbish." > > > > > > Is a retail park not a destination that people > > might like to get to? > > If you fancy buying a washing machine from Curry's > or some tiles from B&Q, and then taking them on > the Bakerloo line, perhaps... There is a stop on the Croydon tram system that pretty much is only there for IKEA and surrounding shopping parks.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But ZT is right Loz, the story did totally miss the point, the poor dead guy was barely mentioned. > Also agree with RPD that the story makes the "mother of 4" sound like a bit of a selfish cow, > whereas I'm sure that's not the case. Probably my fault for cutting the quote badly, but it was more the incongruous Maggie canard on the end. It read like, "I can't believe the Mail gave X as man of the match. But what do you expect for a paper that supported the Blackshirts a century ago?"

Zebedee Tring Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm concerned that the story should have concentrated on the feelings of the "mother of > four" (typical Mailspeak) and not on the plight of the poor bloke who died. I suppose that I > shouldn't be surprised as the Mail is the embodiment of the world of Margaret "No Such Thing > As Society" Thatcher. Urgh, I hate to come in on the Mail's side here, but this just sounds like you would criticise the Mail, no matter what angle they took here.

Possibly failure to report an accident as well, as there was damage and details were not exchanged.

There's a guy who does it as well (Stuart Heritage) who is otherwise a truly dire writer, but is totally in his element here. Laugh out loud funny.

You can go into 'My Control Centre" and under Options-Forum Settings you set 'Enable e-mail notification for private messages' to Yes and you will get an email notification every time someone sends you a PM.

I have to say, the Guardian live blog of the X-factor is a joy to behold.

This may be a little bit of intellectual snobbery, but I liken the Mail/Sun/Mirror, etc outpourings to the stuff you get from your stereotypical cabbie - not stuff you want to hear, but you sort of shrug, sigh and tune out. Arguing would be like 'teaching a pig to sing'. But the Guardian I see as being like David Starkey - you look and think, "all that education and that is what you come out with?" You just kind of expect better. (Yes, I know they are not politically at all similar, but that's not the analogy.)

PD - It is from a t-shirt available from the Daily Mash. Edited, becuase the img tag seems to have stopped working.