An interesting 'reading' of the previous thread, Jeremy. But lets not go down that dead-end road again. Life's too short. I can see both sides to this story - elf and safety hysteria means that the bus driver might have feared for his job had someone complained. But, on the other hand at 2am in the morning you'd think that common sense and human compassion would rule and that anyone in such distress would be helped. The problem is that London is a big city and the bigger the city, the less community there is. When/where I grew up, if you spotted someone broken down on the side of the road, you stopped and checked if they needed help. It hardly happens now in England, let alone London. That, of course, doesn't let the bus driver off - and especially not the policeman. Out of everyone, he should hang his head in shame. They are supposed to be out there helping the general public. And Brendan, having worked with and been friends with quite a few SA girls myself I can well see your point - they are, in general, a rather awe-inspiring bunch.