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monica Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------ > > Sue we are out of red lentils, due to restrictions > on items from the wholesalers. Ok thanks Monica. Really wish I had stocked up on basics earlier :(

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The number of people in pubs is decreasing - I > haven't been in a week - that's a 5 year record > :) > > At some point though the isolation will get > depressing for some people and this will be a > problem. Perhaps we need a virtual pub! We could all sit at home with our drink of choice and make inconsequential chit chat over Zoom or something (not quite sure how that works, is it like Skype but like a conference call??) Cheers!

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > gromit3:16 - your persistent negativity is > becoming rather wearing. Please try and be a bit > more positive. These are difficult times for > everyone and your constant carping is unhelpful. > It isn't just him/her, unfortunately :(

Really hoping things will get better over the next few weeks, supply wise. I'm resigned to having some really weird meals based on what is currently in my larder and freezer :)) I'm also really kicking myself for running stocks down over the last few months, and also for not ordering more - even things I don't normally eat - at my last delivery, to make up for all the things I couldn't get. Hindsight is a wonderful thing :( Good luck everybody. ETA: And thanks to all the lovely local community minded people who are getting together to help others in the area.

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Clutterqueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've bought a copy of Wolf Hall on ebay this week. > I read it when it was first published and > couldn't put it down and then read the sequel but > gave both copies to the charity shop. Hopefully > planning to read both and then Mantel's new book > The Mirror and the Light when I get the time. > Wolf Hall is brilliant. I always said I didn't like historical novels until I read that. She's such a good writer. I subsequently read most of her other books, which are completely different, eg Beyond Black. ETA: I bought Wolf Hall and Bring Up the Bodies from charity shops, maybe I bought yours, clutterqueen :)

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 20.30 - 21.00 > > Just had a wander around North Cross / Lordship > Lane. > It's absolutely Dead. > > Thai Corner Cafe. Empty no one in. > > Monkatsu Empty no one in. > > Palmerston. 6 people ? > > Hisar Turkish. Not a sole. completely empty. > > Hisar Mangal 4 people > > Bishop Few in. Not Busy. > > Memsaab Couple of people > > MEAT Liquor Busy not full > > EDT 10 -15 ish did not go in. > > Really bad. No one about on the street. > > Why do you say it's really bad? Do you think people should be ignoring government advice and going to these places? Yes it's terrible for the businesses and those who work there,but that's a separate issue which let's hope the government will properly address. I thought you were ill, DF. Do you think it's sensible to be wandering around East Dulwich when presumably you are at high risk of getting this virus badly if you catch it?

I'm re-reading Bring Up The Bodies, prior to reading The Mirror and The Light. I've just re-read Wolf Hall. I'm thinking maybe I could have chosen a book with a different title, under the current circumstances :( ETA: I've been reading a lot more since I gave away my television :))

If you are worried, you could somehow wash or otherwise sanitise your card every time you used it. I'm not sure how though. But I would have thought there was still less chance of passing on the virus by card than by cash. I'm sure others here will know a lot more than me about it!

gromit3:16 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The shop worker has to handle the product you are > buying, so how will they work around that. That's one person, plus whoever has handled it between its original production and you. Taking a wild guess, not more than half a dozen. And retailers - and presumably producers, warehouses, wholesalers etc - are taking strict steps to keep things hygienic (not sure that's the word). Cash has probably been round hundreds of people, any one of whom could transmit the virus via the cash (or pick it up from the cash).

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > What is happening is on the same level as > Looting. No it isn't. Looting is illegal and if you are caught looting you are liable to be locked up or at the least fined. Stocking up prior to potentially being stuck in your home for weeks or months is sensible, particularly under the current circumstances. What is wrong is a combination of some people buying more than they need, and retailers not having, or not sticking to, a maximum number of each item per customer. And (if that were possible) restricting customers to one lot of purchases per - week?

gromit3:16 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's getting ridiculous No, it's not getting ridiculous. It is protecting people, including you, from getting ill, in some cases very ill, and in some cases dead.

Thanks for all the supportive posts and PMs. In the end I downloaded a white noise app, which obviously I should have thought to do before. However the radio wasn't too bad yesterday. I am up and about now, thanks, all ready to continue self-isolating :)

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monica Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This was > followed by news of lockdown from tonight. Monica, where did you get that news from?

monica Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We have taken a similar stance now, no more then 2 > items of the same product per customer. We have > signs up in the shop regarding the current > situation, customers are helping by not bulk > buying. > We are part of the ED retail whatsup group, and > had received photos from one of our retail > colleagues of the army in clapham. This was > followed by news of lockdown from tonight. > We won't be closing we are a health and food > store, we have recruited team members, to support > the community and the store through this > challenging time. > Take care ED. Do you have red lentils?

singalto Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ocado let my 83 year old father down. His delivery > was due last Thursday but Ocado then changed it to > the Monday. They did not deliver on Monday and > didn?t apologise until the following day. My dad > is very vulnerable and has been left in the lurch > by Ocado. That is terrible. Did he get his delivery in the end? Did you complain?

I think it is because Kings is not in East Dulwich. Admin is very strict about that. Though I agree an exception could have been made under the circumstances. Perhaps if a separate virus section is set up, this thread could go there?

Thank you Mark. That WHO analysis was the one I had seen.

gromit3:16 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > but why are they now clearing out the fresh fruit > and vegetables isle? they already took the frozen > and tinned vegetables. > I don't know about the fruit, but you can make things with fresh veg and freeze them. Soup, roasted veg, shepherd's pies (or veggie versions) etc.

I'm not sure I can find it again easily, but there is a chart from a credible source which gives a breakdown of symptoms from nearly 56,000 people who tested positive for the virus in China. The figures were from February. From memory, nearly 90% had fever (ie not everybody did). I think the next highest percentage was the dry cough. BUT a significant number of people had symptoms which included sore throat, nausea, cough with phlegm, aching muscles ((I think it was), diarrhoea (low % but a lot in terms of actual numbers). Assuming the positive test results were accurate, this means that people who may be thinking they just have, or had, a cold (for example) could actually have had the coronavirus and may have infected other people. Sorry to alarm, but I find this quite worrying given that there are a lot of other viruses going round at the moment. I would have thought the government would have made testing a priority, as other countries have. Headless chickens spring to mind. Or pissups and breweries. ETA: also, please bear in mind that whilst it is very good news that for the majority this illness will be very mild, those people with mild symptoms (or who test positive without showing symptoms) can pass the virus to others who may then become very ill and - worst case scenario - die. So please don't take this too lightly.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > They should allow you to take out jugs of beer > :)) > > > Yes I concur :) In the olden days pubs used to have sections next to the main part where you could get beer to take away. My mum used to send me up there to get refills for a soda syphon (she didn't drink!)

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just returned from Sainsburys > > Sainsburys are milking it.. Their manager if they > have one on site needs to be sacked. > Absolute disgrace. > I think that's a bit harsh. I imagine the manager has to follow guidelines laid down from above. I may of course be wrong. And when people, which I presume includes yourself, are going to have to self-isolate for many weeks, you can hardly blame them for stocking up on canned goods etc. In my view, as I think someone said above, the government should have foreseen this and made provision for it, not left it to individual chains and shops to try to muddle their way through it.

Go to M&S, I say. They are promising magic and sparkle. I had an email from them today, part of which says: "? Colleagues from our Clothing & Home team will be joining our Food teams so we can continue to give the magic and sparkle service you rely on at M&S despite increased demand." :)) :)) :)) ETA:Who writes this garbage? Very sorry to hear about the nappy situation. Nightmare.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------ > > And of course there are the lowest of the low > trying to make political capital out of a serious > situation....you have just done a general commie > rant and it is NOT clever or useful And up he pops, fanning the flames .....