Sue

Dear oh dear. They have a childlike trust in Royal Mail, don't they?

Does anybody have stats on the proportion of people local to this massive car park who actually use the pizza place, bowling alley and cinema? Or the proportion of people using the pizza place, bowling alley and cinema who live, say, within a mile of it? Thought not. It seems to me that the green spaces which are going to be incorporated will be much more beneficial all round. Southwark Park (the nearest park, I believe?) is nice, and well used by these mysterious "local" people. If there is going to be a larger supermarket than the one already there, then that's also benefitting the local people, isn't it? Presumably there will be a supermarket car park for those who can afford to buy and run a car and don't care about the cost to the environment?

Couldn't you say the same about, for example, "slum clearances" in the past? Also, what happened to the people who lived on the Elephant estates? Were they all cast out onto the streets? I know someone who has lived in a council flat in Surrey Quays for decades. To the best of my knowledge he has never been to either the bowling alley, the cinema or the pizza place. There are probably many people like him. I'm not sure why this discussion is in the local section? Surrey Quays is hardly within walking distance of East Dulwich, unless you have a lot of time and a lot of energy! And that particular part of it is not very easy to reach from here on public transport.

I think you probably mean meditation rather than mediation, though I may be wrong 🤣 Ah! An opportunity to promote our Singarounds! Second Sunday of the month at The Ivy House in Stuart Road, Nunhead, London's first community owned pub and a lovely friendly space with all ages. Check out the FAQ section of our website for lots more info (you don't have to sing, but if you do want to, anything goes - no restrictions at all, except no very very long songs) Https://www.thegooseisout.com Don't be put off by the fact that we are a "folk club" - our Singarounds are different every time, depending on who turns up, but there is usually a great mixture of genres, although often people do sing "folk" songs. It isn't an open mic - we don't use the stage, and we don't use mics. People mingle before it starts, at the breaks and at the end. You would soon get to know people. There are all ages, from very young (over 18 though after 8pm!) to very old (over 80!), though the mix on any particular night again depends on who turns up. The 484 bus goes from Goose Green to the end of Stuart Road, or it's a nice walk through Peckham Rye park, at least in the daylight hours!

Sounds like what Castleton posted above, but different to what I've got. Hope you all get better soon, it sounds horrible.

To be fair, as I understand it the development at the Elephant reserved a number of spaces for people who had small businesses or shops in the original space. I have only been there once, a while ago, to have a look round, but there is also if memory serves at least one place there which is a sort of community hub for local artists etc. The planting is well thought out, and on the whole I thought the area was a great improvement on what was there before. Things move on, otherwise many people would still be living in places with toilets in an outhouse and no heating. I think it's easy to look at the downsides of a development like this, but there are upsides as well.

Thanks both. I have heard of some people where a Covid test wasn't positive until several days after symptoms started. Also it did belatedly occur to me that some of the symptoms eg the dizziness were similar to the first time I got Covid, shortly after the first lockdown. But it's a bit pointless sticking a label on it, it's clearly some virus. Commiserations to everyone else who has it. Let's hope we all recover quickly!

😮 That's appalling! They are supposed to be solicitors 😮

🤣 Either it must have been an extraordinarily expensive sofa, or the payments are extraordinarily small 🤣

My memory must be so rubbish! I don't remember Prime Time, but looking at that picture I don't know how I could have missed it!

When I googled rhinovirus, it said it was the common cold! I don't have what I would call the usual cold symptoms

Have you still got it? 🤣

I don't remember a bed shop. When was that? Before Blockbusters? Oops sorry, I meant to quote the post above bob's.

Thanks for that. Re your exercise - doesn't it depend how it's folded? I'm not going to even attempt to get my brain round that 🤣

Yes the one I remember was round about there, so could well have been next to Dulwich DIY, but I'm getting very confused because you seem to be answering your own posts, but with different information 🤣 Blockbusters was the video shop, wasn't it? There used to be a sort of deli in North Cross Road around 1991 (?), I think it was Turkish. I once bought some cream there. When I got it home, I found it was about three months out of date (I may be exaggerating, I can't remember exactly). When I took it back, the guy opened it up, looked at it, tasted a bit and told me it was perfectly alright 🤣 I didn't buy anything perishable there again 🤣 In more recent times in North Cross Road, there was a little shop next to the mosque which sold really cheap but good quality ginger and garlic. I was sorry when that closed. That's the place which is currently undergoing a really massive renovation. Speaking of garlic, what happened to the French guy who used to come every year to Lordship Lane with strings of onions and garlic? And also in more recent times, there was the pet food and supplies shop in NXR (no actual pets). That closed shortly after the guy's partner, who was a dog walker, was outed on this very forum after one of his clients became suspicious and installed a camera. The recording showed said dog "walker" entering the house, moving the dog lead from one place to another, then leaving the house. Without the dog 😮 I don't know whether the closure was connected with this unfortunate recording, but if not it was an uncanny coincidence of timing. Unless I have misremembered when it closed, but I don't think so.

Glad for you, but I feel worse today! 😭 A friend of mine just told me on Facebook he has been feeling like this on and off for SIX WEEKS 😭 Oh dear. Thanks for that, I didn't know. I will definitely wear a mask if I have to go out, but it feels like I need to rest at the moment. At least I'm sort of glad to hear it's something going around, it's a bit worrying when you don't know what's wrong.

Yet again I wonder if anyone else has what seems to be some kind of bug (Covid test negative). Runny nose on and off for over a week, stuffy head, feeling tired and low energy and a bit crap and a bit headachy and dizzy, but no other cold symptoms. Just me?

It depends if you are in their catchment area, but I and others have often recommended The Gardens on here.

Thanks for the link! I should have thought to add that. If you click on "artists" in the menu, there is information about the artists, but it's very difficult to relate it to the map when you can't print off the map (at least I haven't been able to, but I've only tried from my phone so far).

Do you mean the small charity shop on Lordship Lane just before you get to the roundabout? Near the pharmacist? Can't remember what it's called. The Mind Shop is the one on the corner after you have crossed the road to go to the station, and I'm pretty sure the jeweller/watch repairer wasn't there - it was actually on Lordship Lane, at the roundabout end though. Crikey, I had forgotten about the video shop. The stationers was a strange place, but they sold art stuff as well which was sometimes useful. Then some time later there was that large place - ED Deli? - next to the EDT, which had very yummy Florentines, but seemed to go into a gradual decline until it eventually closed. If it had opened a bit later it might have survived, but probably gentrification wasn't sufficiently advanced at that point. Platform 1 was for a series of pop up restaurants, wasn't it? Or at least, a restaurant with a series of pop up chefs. I don't recall it ever being a cocktail bar? And they were originally going to call it a very rude name ( which sadly I can't remember, but I think it may have been Pussy Liquor - I don't think they were cat owners) and there was a whole thread on here where various people pointed out that it wasn't a very appropriate name, so they changed it 🤣🤣🤣 I think someone must have thought it was hilarious because I think Meat Liquor had just opened down the road ... For a short time there was a very good South Indian vegetarian restaurant, but hardly anybody went to it, and sadly it closed. Again, it might have survived now, it was probably a bit too early in the gentrification process.

When was that? I don't remember that place at all! The double fronted place, I mean. Sorry to hear about Dave. Kebab and Stab! The underbelly of East Dulwich in the back room in the early hours! (Once you got past the guy on the door). Don't remember punch ups in The Palmerston, just trouble in The Uplands Tavern (now The Actress). And whatever happened to the Moulin? Every so often someone on here says the place is going to reopen as something or other, but it never does. Black Cherry lasted longer than the Draft House (?) which replaced it, if memory serves. I agree it wasn't particularly memorable, but it did decent cocktails, and I think it had games (because I have a vague memory of knocking a newly bought cocktail over whilst playing one of the games. I think that might have been on the day of the cocktail crawl 😄) It was an odd space because it was on two levels, with the back part up a couple of stairs, until Franco Manca made it all one level.

Not strictly East Dulwich, sorry admin, but very close! Does anyone know where I can get a printed booklet with the map and details of artists? There's a website, but the information isn't in a format to easily print off.

Congratulations! Devon is lovely! You could see if there's some kind of neighbourhood online group for Barnstaple, and put a similar post on there? Or ask local estate agents, moving firms etc in Barnstaple?

That's a good thought, thanks, I'll offer them free in the for sale section. Though it's just occurred to me that they would have to be using metal boards, which probably isn't very likely! But yes, somebody might be able to make use of them, I suppose, though they are quite old.

Why, is it closed? 😮