Sue

If "off" meat is an ongoing issue, then yes, I would be inclined to inform the council. I don't shop there however, so it won't be me .... Somebody could be seriously ill (or worse in the case of a child) as a result of eating the meat.

:)) I can almost believe that's true :))

I am really pissed off with cyclists cycling on pavements, jumping red lights and generally behaving with no concern for anybody else and as if the law applies to everybody else but not them, so if they are being clamped down on I am delighted. I nearly got knocked down by one cycling on the pavement in Lordship Lane the other day. What's most annoying is when they do it when there is no traffic on the road but lots of pedestrians on the pavement! If they can't handle cycling on the road they shouldn't be cycling, full stop. And why the hell don't they use lights at night? They appear to think that because they can see OK, car drivers and pedestrians must be able to see them (if they think at all). I nearly got knocked over (must be accident-prone) whilst pushing a buggy across the road because the ******* cyclist came round a corner very quickly in the dark with no lights on and I didn't see him in time. I was more concerned for the occupant of the buggy than me, obviously. Rant over :) Edited to say: I'm not against all cyclists, just the antisocial ones :)

Rubbish, innit. Dunno where this enclosed map with the red parallel lines is - I shall chase that up as well!

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This seems to be an ongoing and significant issue. > I therefore propose that, the Social Committee > form a Sub-Committee responsible for the venue > rota for the monthly booze up. The Sub-Committee > should then set up a Working Group for each month > who will submit a shortlist of 3 venues to the > Sub-Committee for approval one month prior to the > booze up for which they are responsible. The > Sub-Committee will then rate the three venues in > order of preference before submitting them for > approval to the Social Committee. > > The Social Committee will then commission a > Life-Panel for each suggested venue. The > Life-Panels will take advice from the other > Sub-Committees which will also have to be > established such as, The Sub-Committee for > Seasonal Affairs, The Sub-Committee for the > Availability of Draught Beer, The Sub-Committee > for the Variety of Draught Beer, The Wine List and > Nibbles Sub-Committee, The Overall Scrumminess > Sub-Committee and the Sub-Committee for the > Avoidance of Unnecessary Bureaucracy (a > sub-committee to an overarching group called The > Advisory Panel on Ostentatious Officialdom or A > POO) > > The Life-Panels will them make a final > recommendation on the suitability of each > suggested venue to the Social-Committee who by > this time will have fallen out with everyone and > gone to the Wishing Well. xxxxxx :)):)):))

Well, this took over two months to come (after a chaser yesterday) but there are two documents on Tessa Jowell's website which are interesting (they're currently the first two on the page), though the letter from Geoff Koon appears to be just passing the buck, basically. Dear , Thank you for your email and I apologise for the delay in responding. I have placed a copy of a response that I received on my website. You can see this at: www.tessajowell.net/campaigns I do hope this is helpful and please do let me know if you feel I can be of further help in the future. With best wishes, Yours sincerely, Rt. Hon. Tessa Jowell MP

I don't read news stories which I can see from the headlines are going to upset me. Unless you are in a position to actually do something about these things, which is unlikely, and certainly you can't after the event, they just provide material to prey on your mind and make you disturbed and unhappy. Cruelty and anger and all the rest of it are part of the human condition, and the news media will always report this stuff because people find it more "interesting" (on the whole) than good news stories. These things have always happened, always will. But - mostly they don't. Let's be thankful for that.

We'll bear you in mind for a gig at the Goose, PGC :))

Of course I'm not keeping a tally, that would be completely pointless :) As if the whole of ED is reading this thread :) or could be bothered to post on it even if they were :)

kristymac1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ok, fine, you win, you hate it more than I like > it. > xxxxx Eh? That's not my point at all :) But yes, the aesthetic issue is something of a side issue - though not unimportant, less important than issues of health and safety

kristymac1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And therein proves my point, for every person that > hates it, there'll be someone who likes it and 8 > more people who aren't fussed either way. xxxxx Erm, I don't think you can quote any such figures unless you've actually done a proper survey :)

May cancel me out, but you aren't 10% of the ED population and neither am I :)

The 10% of people who like the look of the fence, stand up and be counted :)

lozzyloz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hope it wasn't airmail xxxxx :))

Hey flapjackdavey, you aren't allowed to add 'S's , how come they slap my wrist and don't slap yours?? Get Off Of My Cloud (grammar) - Rolling Stones

Have just remembered that at that Kraftwerk thing there were women fighting in the toilets :-S But hey, live dangerously, eh :)

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue - did you go tothat Kraftwerk night?? I really > fancied it but then forgot about it? > xxxxxx Yes, best night out I'd had for ages, started very very very late but well worth it :)

Perhaps we could persuade the barperson who was part of the Krafwerk Tribute Band to put on his laser show there again, it was brill :)) Ooops I mean Kraftwerk (I think!)

I've had a packet delivered today, the postie rang the bell and handed it over, no problem.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > one). And apologies if I said you were discounting > teh bigger argument - it was what I took from your > statement "but that's a bigger issue too many > planes flying low over my house at 4.30am and > disturbing my sleep." xxxxxx A rather bigger issue THAN too many planes ....., I said :)) What a difference a word makes :)) Edited to put in a space after "than"

I stand corrected and bow my head in shame :-$ :)

Wishing Well sounds good, or Clockhouse or Old Nun's Head. Woodhouse a bit of a trek but I guess not if you live at that end :) Market Porter more of a day trip :))

Love Like a Rock - Rory McCleod (MacCleod?)

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So if you are discounting the bigger argument, and > we are left with "I don't want them over my house > at 4:30am", you can't bottle out and NOT say whose > house you DO want them over at 4:30am > > (sorry Sue - I'm not trying to pick on just you - > I think you are making the same points that many > people are making) xxxxxx I'm not discounting the bigger argument! I don't want them over anyone's house at 4.30am! I also don't want to keep rehashing the same points as have been made earlier on the thread, but it's a long long thread to trawl through :-$

lozzyloz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What would you have the government do? > > It seems to me that any viable alternatives will > only come with future improvements in technology > related to energy and transportation. xxxxx Well, may be too late by then, but hey, that's a rather bigger issue than too many planes flying low over my house at 4.30am and disturbing my sleep.