Sue

Neither of the garden centres in East Dulwich is very good, in my opinion (and I used to teach horticulture - and have also worked at Bressingham). There's the Secret Garden in Crystal Palace, and also Shannons in Forest Hill, both with friendly staff and a reasonable range of plants, better than the ED ones anyway. And a great Wyevale on the Purley Way, but that's a bit of a trek unless you're going to Ikea !! But they have a great range of bedding plants for hanging baskets etc..

There's good bread at the stall in North Cross Road market ....

Sorry misposted

Why are the petition people still out today outside Macey's in North Cross Road? Couldn't bear to get into another discussion with them ..... just winds me up ....

ChavWivaLawDegree Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'd love to know who actually started all this. XXXX Yeh so would I :-S

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mightyroar: > > > This is clearly an ill considered site for the > 100 hours pharmacy. > > A 100 hour pharmacy ~within~ a medical centre > dispensing prescriptions on site seem a preety > good community benefit to me. > > Do you want the medical centre closed because it > is on an ill considered site? XXXXXX Yes, good point. Why is it an ill considered site, exactly? Seems like an ideal site to me !!

snorky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >> now an opinion - as we seem to be short of > opinions in the thread. > > this isnt about the DMCs expanding empire > > this isnt about circumventing planning & > consultation > > > This is about people refusuing to have the "real > life" of SE London in their manor - its already > there people - you may not see it, but ED has its > problems and personalities- many of which have > been around a lot longer than many residents > tenure in the area > > XXXXXXXX Yes I agree. I don't actually have an opinion on the DMC needle exchange issue as I haven't read and considered all the background. I just don't like it when I'm being force fed misleading information and then asked to sign something. However I did form the strong impression from talking to the people with the petition in North Cross Road on Saturday that basically they just did not want to live somewhere where they had to acknowledge the existence of drug users, and heaven forbid that their children should come to learn that the real world isn't all sweetness and light, organic food and expensive shoes. I had the same sort of reaction from someone who used to live in my road (Ulverscroft Road) in relation to a rumour (or maybe not a rumour) that the number of housing association properties in East Dulwich were going to increase, and who felt that this was therefore somehow going to "lower the tone" of the area. He felt I would be concerned about my house value !!! Riff raff, eh. Maybe we should put a fence round SE22, chuck out everyone who can't afford to shop at the delis or appears to be in any way "different" and only give the chosen few a key to the only gate in. And no doubt they'd all still be queuing up with their Guardians at Budgens on Saturday morning. Blimey, never realised I felt so strongly :)

My first impressions seem to have been right, then - nimbies who didn't want people to consider any issues contradicting their point of view :'( Always amazes me what you find beneath the surface of many people who probably like to think of themselves as liberal and tolerant .....

I've been several times, and each time was excellent, extremely high standard. But they nearly had to close recently because of poor attendance.

Ko Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > So is this true or not? Does Maceys the > chemist > > > already dispense Methadone? I was told this > by > > the > > > guys manning the petition table in front of > > their > > > store yesterday. I was also sort of disturbed > > that > > > it seemed they were whipping up the fear > factor > > > when all THEY really cared about was the > > > money/loss of trade. I'm fine with it if they > > want > > > to make a point about loss of trade, but when > > they > > > start trying to play on fears to hide that, > > well, > > > then I find that very annoying. > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > > > > If Macey's is the chemist in North Cross Road, > I > > was also told this on Saturday morning - not > only > > that Maceys dispenses methadone but that it is > a > > needle exchange. > > > > > I've asked at the pharmacy and was told Maceys > does methadone, but it is NOT a needle exchange. XXXXXXXXXX So the people trying to get me to sign their petition lied to me, then :(

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I heartily recommend Ottery st Mary in Devon for > bonfire night. Absolutely mental. > Quite a long way Ottery Saint Mary was one of the scariest things I've ever been to, massive bonfire storeys high, and burning tar barrels rolling down narrow streets, I thought I was lucky to get out alive :))

Yes, I also got the impression they didn't like the idea of somebody making any money ! Are you from the Ganapati restaurant??(tu)

I've had both bad food and bad service at The Green in the past, and wouldn't go there again. It doesn't have a good atmosphere, either. The worst (and last) time was one Christmas Day. My family decided it would be a good idea to go there for lunch. VERY bad idea, the food was appalling (AND expensive). I also once had to wait over an hour for food at Le Chardon, but that was a long time ago .....

Ganapati Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So is this true or not? Does Maceys the chemist > already dispense Methadone? I was told this by the > guys manning the petition table in front of their > store yesterday. I was also sort of disturbed that > it seemed they were whipping up the fear factor > when all THEY really cared about was the > money/loss of trade. I'm fine with it if they want > to make a point about loss of trade, but when they > start trying to play on fears to hide that, well, > then I find that very annoying. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX If Macey's is the chemist in North Cross Road, I was also told this on Saturday morning - not only that Maceys dispenses methadone but that it is a needle exchange. I strongly object to the way this issue was being presented by these people at the stall trying to get people to sign their petition. (it was the first I had heard of it). Amongst other things I was told that if the new needle exchange was opened, needles would be strewn all around (eh? I walk down North Cross Road every day, and I haven't seen any near Macey's!! Or anywhere else in the area for that matter) and that this wasn't nimbyism BUT the objections were because it would be "right next to a nursery school and community centre." What do they think is going to happen, bad bad druggies attack the dear little kiddies? Talk about stereotyping drug users. I had the petition shoved at me with what would have been no opportunity to consider the arguments for and against, and if it is true that people were just walking past, then good for them - I didn't sign it. Forgive me if this post is just repeating what others have said - I don't have time to read ten pages of the thread, just wanted to state my viewpoint, because I was still fuming on Saturday when I got on the bus !!

Surely street trees are chosen which have roots which do not affect houses. If there is subsidence, removing trees can often in fact make it worse.

Don't know about the best, but I had an absolutely rubbish Sunday roast at the EDT (stone cold and crap service) - but by far the worst I've EVER had, in fact possibly the worst MEAL I've ever had in my life, was at that pub in Dulwich Village - The Greyhound ??

A three bed terrace in Ulverscroft Road was recently sold for ?475k the day it went on the market .....

Somebody has also been removing trees in Ulverscroft Road over the last few years .... WHY ?!