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SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Exactly right Jeremy - and I had been trying to > type a similar sentiment and getting nowhere so > cheers! xxxx Sorry Sean but it isn't right, and nor (in the workplace at least) would it be legal. A defence of "oh but I didn't mean anything by it, it was just good-humoured banter" would not be an acceptable defence at an employment tribunal :-S Edited to say: Sorry to be heavy, as you know I do have a sense of humour, but I also think this is important .....

Jeremy Wrote: > These words are usually used in good humour, and > such banter is taken in the spirit it was > intended. However, if you shout at someone in > public, deliberately trying to intimidate/alienate > them, then it becomes a different matter... that's > what makes it offensive. xxxxx Something is offensive if the recipient is offended, regardless of the intention or whether it is shouted in public. And regardless of whether the person who said it defended it as "banter".

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Shu.Kurimu.Sensei, if people say things like that, > especially to your wife, you are allowed to punch > them. It?s the rules. > > And sometimes far more constructive and expedient > than a lengthy discussion on the subtle nuances of > racial and national stereotyping. xxxxxx :)):)):))

Let's not get into a long discussion about this here, very happy to do so if you PM me Loz - yes I have been selective because if I picked up on everything said that I'm unhappy or uneasy about, I would be permanently posting and people would be even more pissed off with me. :-S The person who made the remark I quoted doesn't need to be named and shamed because the post is probably still on the forum, so it's there for all to see :-S EDIT TO SAY: This is in reply to Loz's post, not NatashaD's

I don't think the police/fraud investigators would just go in all guns blazing and shut somewhere down, would they, they'd want to watch and wait and make sure they had evidence and also try to trace the trail back to see exactly who was involved before arresting anyone?? Otherwise there would be time for the others involved to get away, no?? Not that I know anything at all about how the police or fraud departments work, lol! I just know the police were mega uninterested when I had two cards stolen once :-S but that was a one-off, not like this epidemic now :-S EDIT: Anyway you can't just shut somewhere down, it might be that the owner/manager/whoever had nothing to do with whatever was going on :)

f*****g hell, I've just had a call from First Direct fraud department, my debit card has been cloned too (attempts declined) and they've cancelled it. Just to let you know, the card companies and police are acting on information received, they know there is a problem in East Dulwich and they are investigating. :-S Now I'm going to phone my credit card company as I've used that round here recently too :-S

Administrator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Message sent to NatashaD: > > You have been told about this before. The original > poster has stated that they have been racially > abused yet you refuse to understand that they feel > abused and therefore, with a lack of > understanding, you abuse them further. Do not do > it again. > > Regards > > The Administrator > > > This is in reference to this posting previously > where a user stated they felt racially abused > http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?2 > 0,140553,142242#msg-142242 and were told to "get > over it" by NatashaD. This behaviour, whether it > is done because of an enjoyment of causing offence > or thinking it is amusing to stir up personal > anguish is wrong. Being controversial is fine > however being controversial for controversy's sake > at other people's expense is not something I wish > to see and encourage on the the forum so please > stop it. > > I hope you understand. xxxxxxx Thank you for making this clear, admin - I saw this thread and didn't want to comment on NatashaD's remark because of the flak I have received on other threads when challenging things people have said - one comment being "why don't you go and join a black forum" (I'm white, btw.). I am really pleased this remark has been picked up on. Maybe it might make the (hopefully few) people on the forum who don't seem to have much of a clue about the issues involved think a bit? Right, got that off my chest, back to work now :))

It's surely the card company or the police who need to do something (not that the police appear to be interested in card crime) - if an employee is sacked, they'll just go and do it somewhere else? I'm scared to use a card anywhere round here now!!

Syndical ??

Had been very oppressive (spelling?) atmosphere all day, building up to storm :) Is it just me who finds the weather this summer very scary? I don't mean the lightning :-S

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Another thing to do is have a second card with a > very low limit - and use only that for day to day > transactions - so even if it gets skimmed they > can't do too much damage xxxxxx But the bank will repay you the money, won't they? It's all the hassle that's the annoying thing, and a low limit card wouldn't get over that if it was cloned.

To be fair to the OP, there weren't many bangs last night (well not associated with the lightning anyway :))), and those there were were quite faint :)

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Surely having a kebab delivered misses the whole point of a kebab, which is to lurch drunkenly home with it and then see the container in the bin the next morning but not remember having actually eaten what it contained, but you know you must have done because the kebab isn't there :)) HonaloochieB, thanks for making me laugh :))

:)) How disappointing, when I saw the thread title I was hoping for aliens over East Dulwich :))

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm going to regret saying this - and I'm > touching wood as I do - but am I the only one to > have not been cloned yet? > > I've used all of the local cashpoints and used the > card in most bars and restuarants, + SMBS, Val's > grocers etc XXXXXXX Same here, and I'm touching wood as I type :)) After I was so sanctimonious on a thread a while back, saying you only got your purse nicked if you weren't careful, erm, I had my purse AND mobile nicked on a crowded 37 bus shortly afterwards, because I was using a backpack and had put them in an outside zip pocket after using my mobile to text on the bus and putting my Oyster card back in my purse (so both where someone coud see where they were) - stupid me. But there's a limit to how careful you can be with a debit card, otherwise what's the point of having one? I don't like carrying around masses of cash :-S

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OK, opening up the floodgates, what about the Maddy case? (I'm obsessed, rofl :)))

HonaloochieB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > #Tooooo the dump to the dump to the dump dump > dump, to the dump to the dump to the dump dump > dump > to the dump to the dump to the dump dump dump, to > the dump to the duhuhump# xxxxx Isn't that the William Tell Overture? :))

I thought the hog roast was connected (literally, judging by the cables) to the organic butcher's van in the market??

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ungrateful little bollix's > > Where is everyone's heart? Doesn't the bit that > makes you think you are on "holiday" make your > heart skip a little bit? > > xxxxxx As I can't afford a holiday at present - no, I'd prefer not to be reminded of places outside ED or indeed the UK :))

I think it's totally out of character with the area, but hey ho ..... Somebody had some money they had to use up, I guess ....

Thanks for that Amelie, I don't feel like eating ever again now :))

What absolute nonsense. Write to your MP and local councillor, I would - maybe they can get such a stupid system changed.