Peckhamgatecrasher

Just re-read this post - should have done that first. I see Spangle's objection is to 'manufacture' of babies. Sorry to confuse the issue; I should have kept my nose out.

Not open sundays but the telephone may offer an alternative RSPCA Camberwell Clinic 1 Camberwell Station Road Camberwell London SE5 9JJ Tel: 0207 274 6995 Website: www.rspca.org.uk Extra Information: Opening Times: Tuesday/Thursday/Friday 2pm to 3.30pm, Wednesday 10am to 11.30am Also PDSA clinic in New Cross PDSA PetAid hospital The Philippa and George Adams Centre 6 Amersham Vale New Cross London SE14 6LD Tel: 020 8691 0577 but I think on Sundays the Charlton branch is the nearest.

Hullo chaps Just to try and smooth things over. I think the argument used by most religious objectors to IVF is not the fact that it is medical intervention but that in the placing of several fertilised eggs in the womb, invariably other fertilised eggs are destroyed. Many people believe that life begins at conception, therefore this would be seen as killing. This is not a judgement call on anyone out there, merely a belief held by many people who are not nutters but genuinely think that is the case. I am not saying this to open up a can of worms, neither am I proselytising, neither does this need to provoke a moral/religious debate. I think where this is strongly felt then no exceptions can logically be made, however sad the circumstances, eg, after chemotherapy, which is perhaps where Spangle's argument fell down. In all things I think we need to respect each other's views and beliefs without ridicule. It is often tritely quoted but I do think this may be the right place to remind us of the quote attributed (rightly or wrongly) to Voltaire: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

She's a good sarf london gal

Umbrellas. Can't stand them, think they should be outlawed. Always at eye-poking height wielded by selfish bods who don't want to spoil their hair. And last time I looked there were no fairways on Lordship Lane. How cathartic. (edited to remove swear word) (edited to avoid offending Ben)

C'mon Declan - I'm enjoying your discomfort.

Weren't VW something to do with V2 production factory?

I saw him at Highbury - he's a brilliant actor. Went down clutching the back of his head claiming a coin had been thrown. After heroic recovery he got up massaging front of head. Paul Daniels must have been in the crowd: amazingly the referee could find no coin.

That's simply crass. Hands off DM, we love her.

I'll have you know there's nowt wrong with a Robin Reliant. My first 'car' was a Supervan Mark III and I bought it for the princely sum of ?15. Oh I wish I'd hung on to it now - for ?44,000 I could dine at the Chandelier twice.

Hope you find your kitten. You can train her to come to a whistle if you don't want to yell out Mogmog. Everytime you put her food down, give a shrill whistle. It won't take long for her to associate it with food and each time you whistle she will come flying in if she's within earshot. I discovered this the hard way when I had cats called Ringo and George. I was yelling for George one evening when my very elderly neighbour (also called George) was using his outdoor privy and yelled back. Exceedingly embarrassing! good luck

Surely not beyond your own detecting skills Miss M?

Actually - we've aleady reminisced - see the 'Dog Crap' thread.

Mark - I've posted a recommendation about a plumber whom I found through searching on here. I was a bit confused about where to put it coz there are so many plumbing threads and I couldn't remember where I'd found it. Plumped for one anyway but I hope I haven't confused issue by opening old thread. Feel free to move it if appropriate. thanks PGC

Also one up Nunhead Lane near the station. I've been a few times for weddings/baptisms and they seem most friendly.

Wouldn't Speakers Corner be more fun - all ED could come and heckle and then have a picnic.

Guys - I'm no prude but could you please give a content warning. Just played Derek & Clive while 13 year old in the room - and I'm not naive enough to think she hasn't heard all those words before - but really, we've just had our tea!

Beware of Geeks bearing gifts!

Just watched Simpsons. Quote from the blessed Homer: "Why do they keep having new bands. Everybody knows that 1974 was the year rock reached perfection!

Got some loaves and fish if you fancy?

Hi Bawdy-Nan I can offer our church as an alternative but you would have to walk a bit further. It's All Saints Church on Blenheim Grove by Peckham Rye Station. Our services start at 10.30 am, and everyone starts off in the church - we have a kids slot near the beginning (normally a silly song with manic actions) after which the children go the hall and are put in appropriate age groups where they have interactive learning with games, crafts and singing. Heaps of fun is had by all and all of our leaders and helpers are CRB checked. Also on a Tuesday during term-time there is an afterschool club at 3.45 for a 4pm start until 5.15 pm in the hall (behind the church) for 5-11 year olds where there is cooking, crafts and story-telling, games, etc - so the children learn about God in a fun way. Plenty of other activities happen during the year: we are having a holiday club this half term October 22 & 23 with a circus theme, 10.30 - 12.30 just turn up on the day to register your child or 'phone the office (7639 3052) to book a place. There will be a children's carol service on 9 December - we featured a donkey last year, not sure what wild and woolly animal is lined up for this year. All activities at the church are free and do not feel obliged to put anything in the collection plate (Poindexter pls note!) We are more than happy to have primary classes visit the church - we show them around and teach them all that's needed to cover the Southwark RE syllabus. Hope this helps. PGC Edited spelling

reminds me of my fave joke which I know should be on another thread but I can't be bothered: Why was Ian Paisley walking down the Falls Road carrying a bicycle? He was holding a raleigh!

Never mind - I'll buy you a red lemonade if we should ever meet.

Treinta quince - how does that translate?

Well, if we're going off-thread then I have to mention Aldeburgh, Suffolk - they still use lard: unbeatable chips.