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There must be room for pop-up arts spaces in the empty shops opposite Iceland.

Yes, Santa Maria del Sud is the best in London.

And the road design. Green traffic lights make people speed up, ambers even more. I also think the proliferation of unnecessary traffic lights across London, like the ones on Forest Hill Road, are breeding a generation of drivers who cannot cope with a simple crossroads.

Drivers pulling out have poor sight lines because of parked cars and vans. Drivers using Barry Road are looking at the green traffic light (you can't help it) rather than the junction before. It's no coincidence that the other dangerous junction on that road has the same set-up - junction followed by traffic lights. Does this set-up lull Barry Road drivers into thinking that the coast will always be clear?

I want to know what eater81 thinks about the piece.

The problem is that some people on this forum actually fall for it.

Get a motorcycle. 20-25 mins to W1. Get a cycle. 25-30 mins to W1.

Thanks for the tip-off. I shall rehearse my retort for when they hurl abuse at me when I politely decline their wares, like they did the last two times they visited. http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,421956,421956#msg-421956

A Goose Green-sized roundabout would do the trick. There is room. The centre could be paved with low gutters to allow larger vehicles to negotiate it.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This leaves Royal Mail in the unenviable position > of being both a public service and a business ? > and can?t succeed at both. > > A really good point, this. Sometimes we have > decide what we want in this regard - public > transport is a similar issue. > > Personally, I think that in the age of the email > the letter is slowly going the way of the > telegram, so the UDS's time may be up. Royal Mail > should be released of it's shackles and allowed to > compete properly. Good points - but in the age of internet shopping, parcel delivery is burgeoning

A mini roundabout, like the painted one on Underhill would work well too.

skidmarks Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I still say taking the centre line road marking > out will give the illusion of a narrower road and > slow drivers, as we did here. Even if it didn't > work it would only cost the day rate of a line > marking team of ?500. > > http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en > &geocode=&q=Forest+Row&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&ssp > n=18.231357,39.331055&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Forest+Row > ,+East+Sussex,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.09388,0.052244 > &spn=0,0.009602&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.09388,0.05224 > 4&panoid=dWFgNqVyBXxzE2sBhh8lJg&cbp=12,280.17,,0,7 > .92 That's a proven calming method, like red tarmac (but cheaper)

Here's my traffic calming solution, that doesn't involve speed humps or cameras, or much cash: Give Underhill and Upland Roads priority over Barry Road, making Barry Road motorists give way onto these quieter routes, splitting Barry into three shorter, slower sections.

Nicholas Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you would have noticed it was said the BMW > driver thretened the bus driver at the top of the > road,so consequently traffic calming would have > slowed him down because he was speeding to get > away from the incident which happened halfway down > Barry rd. This a serious thread about speed road > safety issues which need to addressed. I was being serious. In that car, you could get up to nearly 50mph between speed humps and I've seen plenty of drivers jumping their vans and cars over humps and cushions - especially company vehicles. If the driver has the red mist, they're a menace, whatever obstacles you put in the way. It's a serious issue that residents block sight lines to the right on Barry Road and LL. That needs to be addressed too.

The driver threatened a bus driver with a bottle? No traffic calming would've slowed this nutter. BTW, if you're the owner of a blue Seat Ibiza, parked in the cross hatchings on Barry Road, by the junction with Underhill, you're causing cars to edge out because they can't see what's coming.

Longer double-yellows to improve sight lines is a great idea, and one that could benefit LL and especially the bend by Kwik Fit on Grove Vale, where poor parking forces cars and buses onto the wrong side of the road and unnecessary congestion.

But this driver crashed because he(she) overcooked it pulling out of a side road. It looked like aggressive driving, but the impact was no greater than 20-25mph. No camera would stop that.

A black 2002 BMW 3-series with flashy alloys. Looked like it pulled out of underhill too fast, or aquaplaned.

No, might be more of this going on: http://cms.met.police.uk/news/arrests_and_charges/theft_or_taking_of_a_motor_vehicle/mercedes_stolen_to_order

Saw them passing through Peckham, by the Rye.

Charity shop = shop least likely to have sophisticated CCTV.

One at 9-ish, just off LL. Seemed embarrassed to be there. Told politely to bugger off.

Didn't look like much from where I was passing, but yes, it was one of three accidents in the area and two fatalities involving motorbikes: http://southeasteleven.blogspot.com/2010/10/another-accident-on-kennington-park.html

Camberwell New Road was cordoned off from Brixton Road to Vassell Road including John Ruskin Street, with police shooing everyone away. Saw an ambulance park up at the junction of John Ruskin Street, but didn't see any smashed cars. Seemed a bit over the top to shut the entire road down, unless it was someone running around with a gun or a knife.

Zephyr is correct.