PeckhamRose

We're not just looking at speed cameras though. There are endless signs telling us what to do, how to drive, where is what, what sort of a zone we are in, what sort of driving we can do, whether we should turn right or turn left, whether the next road is a cul de sac, there is a law that says there must not be a TVscreen in front of the driver's sightline and yet satnavs are just that so some drivers are also looking at satnavs, there are road humps that we are having to negotiate right in front of us when advanced driving tells us to look ahead and plan ahead. And you're telling us to drive safely and keep our eyes on the road as well? If one more person tells me that if I am driving within the speed limit then I should not worry I shall use their face for a parking space. Does it never occur to you that the speed limits may be inappropriate? Many cases specially in motorcycle forums prove that a legal defence can be that one was riding excessively (ie over the limit) but not inappropriately (ie. the biker read the road and rode an appropriate speed for the road conditions, weather conditions, and whether the road was in a residential area or not). That's like saying if you don't break the law then you have nothing to worry about. What happens when they bring in a law that squeezes what you think you are legally doing into something illegal? Do you want us to support you? lozzyloz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's not that difficult to drive at a constant > speed. It's one of the basic things you learn > before passing your driving test. If you can't do > that (law abiding or not) then you shouldn't be on > the road. Furthermore it takes a nano second to > glance at your speedo. To argue a picture of > drivers gripping the steering wheel white > knuckled, weaving all over the road and too scared > to take their eye of the clock is nonsensical. By > far the vast majority of drivers can see the GATSO > in advance and slow down accordingly. Yes they > might well speed up again, but if it is placed > strategically within an accident hot spot it will > reduce accidents. What it won't stop are the > unregistered, uninsured drivers who deliberately > flout the law on and off the road with little > chance of getting caught.

OMEN OMEN OMEN ok I am sick I'm going back to bed. No seriously, I am.

Well if it is not JAWS or HAIR it has to have an E or O or U so it must be something like.... OMEN

Crossroads (when it was really bad)

Scoff

JAWS mightyroar Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > movie > > ----

What's this doing in the Lounge?

Size EIGHT? What does that mean, exactly? ;)

Someone farts fleas? Down that way? ahhahahahaahahahaahahahaahaha

So was I right? Then it's MY turn MightyRoar! Pahhh I'm lost now.

Favourite line from Police Squad: "Who are you and how did you get in here?" "I'm a locksmith....... and I'm a locksmith!" mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Police Squad. 6 episodes only?!

The Persuaders.

If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style. Quentin Crisp

SWEENEY TODD Next? (Sorry I just wanted to hurry things up...)

lack (this same thread appears on my motorcycle forum. It's on about page 3,428,901 now and there are a lot of repetitions and it gets very sex orientated of course. So beware...!)

Sir Councillor ELECTED person - why did you not address my own suggestion on the previous page, made to Southwark which so many people on the street in cars and pedestrians like the idea of - and someone else on here as well as myself mentioned - of getting rid of all lights (ok, some by schools are important) and street furniture and endless signs. Car drivers WILL be slower if they are unsure and realise they are HAVING to concentrate to work out who is next to cross. Pedestrians also will take more care. The amount of people who cross a road because they are looking at a light which is flashing a green man, makes me laff. They are looking at a SIGN which tells them to cross; not at the car which cares not for the sign which is heading straight for them. I talk to strangers, I'm strange like that - and I would say there is more support for this idea than you realise. As a motorcyclist I am specially aware of the dangers - but having an experiment in a small area would most certainly be a good idea. You wrote below : -- Cllr Richard Thomas Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There are very few alternatives to humps available > to councils. That you're willing to consider, you mean. > For example, the police won't > enforce traffic offences in 20mph zones. I am glad to hear it. They have enough on their plate. > The best hope is average speed cameras which track a > vehice's speed over a distance between two points > and fines anyone who covers the ground too > quickly. Yay more cameras, more money! > They are being trialled in Camden I > think. I am pushing for Southwark too be allowed > to install them too. Any suggestions as to where? If they're good enough for Camden, it does not mean we have to follow like lemmings. BE BRAVE SOUTHWARK COUNCILLORS. Take an initiative. Have an original THOUGHT (ok, I thought of it, and other places in Europe have done it.) > I think Barry Road might be a good place to start. You do, do you? Well think again - the number 12 bendy busses act as an automatic barrier for most transport up there. That road is dangerous as any other. ROundabouts and taking signs and lines and so on away make more sense.

Noooooooo not if the cat does not go out it's not true! Cats going out anywhere = fleas. Cats too scared to go out + someone coming in the house with fleas on them = fleas. My cat never going out + me never bringing fleas home = no fleas. Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cats + central heating = fleas.

YES yes yes yes Cassius and what's more I used the opening of JUST DRIFTING in my play to introduce the theme of painful love.... For myself - XTC and Andy Partridge. I absolutely love them. I am a member of their forum, too! Cassius Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Genesis P Orrige and the awesome Psychic TV and > Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats......

Ooooh East Dulwich Gardeners Question Time! I can't offer an answer to the original question but if there are any experts - lemme ask another question. Just make sure you make clear which question you're answering! or me and Nero may get each other's plants and suggestions! I have a room that is not that bright but it is dry and warm. What pot plant should I have? :)

You don't sound at ALL sorry. Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Blame me I ordered it to be done. Sorry. > > Louisa.

Yeah - What He Said. Meanwhile, over on my motorcycle forum there was a recent story about how one of the motorcyclists had come off his bike in a smack with a 4x4 driver. He wasn't hurt much and then found himself sat waiting for the AA or someone to collect him and his bike, and guess what. Yep, a traffic warden ticketed his broken bike. He took a photograph of the scum issuing the ticket and sticking it on his DOWNED MOTORCYCLE ON ITS SIDE, ON THE SIDE OF the ROAD. He did successfully challenge the fine, but the fact that the scum felt it was acceptable to even consider doing this, makes you wonder.

I work weekends. Go away. :(

I was told they were. "Also as a point of clarification, the SNT teams are not linked to the wardens " Ho hum...

Just saw this on BBC website, thought of you. Best wishes and good luck, get friends to bring cleaning stuff and good food I guess... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7207683.stm

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