Saffron

The Great Little Trading Co has bedding that's girlie without being OTT pink. gltc.co.uk

Wavelengths Leisure Ctr in Deptford has a really nice leisure pool that's been recently renovated. There are bubble fountains and a mini-waterslide for little children, and flumes for older children. It only costs a few pounds, and you don't have to be a member. There are family swim hours and general sessions. I've been to both with my daughter, and the general sessions were fine. The pool is big enough to be enjoyed by children of all ages.

sillywoman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just to remind anyone interested: This coming > Thursday Evening is the next 'ED Birthtalk'. We > will be discussing Induction - How; why; the > history; UK guidelines; Stats; terminology; how to > have a 'good' one; what can be done to speed the > process/increase effectiveness, & any stories > people would like to bring. It'll be interesting > one to consider with a positive slant. > > If you fancy an evening of > tea/coffee/cake/biscuits and chat about Induction > please PM me for venue details or just come along > if you know where I am. :D Everyone welcome. > > SW xx See you tonight!

Belle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It is definitely Thurs isn't it?? Yes. Thursday 6th. See the World Book Day website for more info. I got an ELC Gruffalo onsie for my LO to be the 'Gruffalo's Child'. Size says 3-5 years. She's 4 - it barely fits! I think she'll manage for just a day. She seems quite happy with it, but look out for it in the FR Classifieds after the next growth spurt!

Ooo, that IS an interesting question! There's possibly more variability in natural length of gestation than is widely recognised: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23594668. As this article suggests, +/- 2.5 weeks surrounding due date is normal for some women. I guess the problem with modern obstetrics is that it seems to be better at delivering support to babies that need to be born early (ie induced or c-sec), than it is to identifying and supporting babies that have gone over due with dire consequences. I mean, if a midwife thinks a baby needs to come early, there are a lot of things that can be done for that mother-baby dyad before and after the birth. However, the hazard of going over due with undetected problems, could lead to exponential increases of risk of morbidity or mortality. I would guess as well that this is in contrast to centuries past when being born premature was something midwives couldn't do much about, and premature babies had a higher mortality in the past? In other words, the modern medical system seems to be biased to delivering babies early rather than late. But has the system run amok? The use of Pitocin (synthetic oxytocin) to induce labour has recently come under a great deal of criticism. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/study-pitocin-harm-babies/story?id=19148043 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/07/pitocin-risks_n_3224811.html Sb I wonder how that fits in with your EDD vs LMP dates?!

Did anyone see 'Call the Midwife' on Sunday? They were dealing with this exact topic, ei named community caseload care vs shift care in hospital!

Oh dear, that does sound tough. Instead of lifting him for a late wee, could you put him to bed an hour later? That way, he would have a chance to do an extra wee himself before bed. Then once he's in a good routine of being dry over night, you could start to move the bedtime back to its normal time? xx

Saffron Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > South London Travel Centre was recommended in a > recent thread. Looks like their prices are fairly > reasonable. > http://www.yourtravelclinic.co.uk/SouthLondonTrave > lCentre.php No problems getting this jab from SLTC. They don't appear to be affected by the production shortage mentioned in TE44's link. xx

So it all went fine. Jab number 2 done, didn't appear to be painful. Cost was ?68, and the staff were really friendly. xx

Well if people feel stirred up by it, perhaps that's the energy the system needs to get more community midwives!

William Frost Gardens. Will is really lovely and can work to your budget. He and his wife have 2 young boys, so he understands that gardens need to be functional and affordable. www.williamfrostgardens.co.uk xx

Personally I couldn't have afforded a private midwife. But I wouldn't have wanted one anyway because the NHS care I got from the Oakwood Midwives was brilliant.

Agreed, midwifery discussions on this forum are often bound up with other discussion topics. I think we're fortunate in ED to have many great community midwifery services that support a variety of birth choices. Plus we have large diverse hospital units like Kings Denmark Hill and Lewisham. Perhaps check out the Positive Birth thread? Sillywoman is hosting a 'birth talk' group based on this thread. Everyone is welcome. The discussions have been really interesting so far! xx Edited to say, just saw your post on the PB thread! xx

EmilyPie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If babies sleep the way their physiological needs > demand then mother nature was clearly having a > really bad day when mine was designed. Waking up > every 45mins to an hour, all night, every night, > despite being not just in the bed but on mummy's > chest, at 6 months. What sort of needs is that > designed to meet ffs!!! Not trying to knock the > research but it would be nice if these guys also > took into account the physiological needs of > parents too! Yup been there. It's tough. From an anthropological historical perspective we would have been likely to have been sleeping in large extended family groups with biphasic or triphasic sleep patterns even as adults. In many ways modernity has been great for mothers- sleep not necessarily one of them!!

We're having a consultation for my daughter's 2nd immunisation at the South London Travel Clinic tomorrow. We'd previously had her first CP imms at one of the travel clinics in central London (MediCtr Victoria? can't rem now), but paeds consultant wasn't available last time I checked. So, we're going to give the SLTC a try for jab number 2. The receptionist was a little uncertain, since we didn't do our first jab there. She said we could discuss it with the consultant tomorrow. Hopefully it will all be fine!

Hmm positive induction? I'm willing to guess some people might think that's an oxymoron! But actually the only close friends I know who had inductions had pretty good experiences. The things they had in common were having really good, active support from family or friends, and also being open minded about the induction process. Still I wonder, with all the talk around difficulties in inductions and the desire to limit the medicalisation of birth, do inductions sometimes suffer from the 'nocebo' effect? When a woman is told an induction may be necessary, is she (or her partner) offered any additional psychological support, or is she given only medical advice?

Second vote for futon in the little one's room when they're not sharing your room! It makes everything so much easier at night. xx

MrsAk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We took my 2 1\2 year old to the planetarium this > morning to see "space safari" aimed at children > aged under 7. > > She loved it - it's on until the end of Feb! > > http://www.rmg.co.uk/whats-on/events/space-safari Oh I thought we missed it :(, but checked the website and it's on till end of March. :)

Hi! Any news of new topic?

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You're the same sort of age as me. We are going to > be working until we are at least 70. Plenty of > time to do this later on. > I've also been thinking of doing some retraining/additional training. I've thought about whether or not to do it now or put if off a few years. I totally get where you're coming from, re working till we're 70! I'm just wondering if 10 years down the line I'm actually going to have enough brain cells left to do any additional training after the sleep deprivation of the last few years?! > And I could be wrong, but I don't think secondary > school kids are likely to resent you for being > busy, I'd much rather that than miss out on these > earlier years. See the thread on teenagers, heehee.

About 10 years ago, I found myself spending loads of money of beauty products, and I got fed up with it. I had 2 (or 3? I can't remember) IPL treatments to clear up adult acne. Not only did it clear up the acne, it improved my skin overall. More recently, about 4/5 years ago, I had pixel laser treatment (only 2 sessions, it's very expensive). This was mainly to remove early signs of sun damage, but it also smoothed fine lines around my eyes and overall improved my skin. Pixel is one of the few lasers that's safe to use on the area around the eyes. Yes, these treatments are expensive, but when I think of all the money I've saved NOT buying loads of other make-up and beauty products, it was a really good investment. IPL is much cheaper than laser treatment. It doesn't penetrate as deep into the skin, so the results are not as dramatic. Then again, it's also much less painful. IPL doesn't really hurt at all. Pixel laser felt like having a really bad sunburn, and the skin peels noticeably afterwards. So don't have pixel laser right before a holiday or special event! I had treatments through The Private Clinic, and the staff were all really friendly. xx

fapl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Best to know there is tongue tie though > immediately after birth, if it doesn't cause > problems and does not require treatment, great. > Knowing can save weeks of heartache when nobody > can explain to you why your baby can't feed/you > can't breast feed. It will also save tens of > thousands of women giving up breastfeeding in the > early weeks when that is not what they want to do. > > > Saffron, if all babies are checked at birth and > all midwives are trained to identify posterior > ties (volunteers in the community are successfully > trained to identify this problem so it shouldn't > be specialist, it shold be standard training) as > well as more standard and obvious ties, hopefully > a lot less babies will be reach the point where > they are referred to specialists for 'failure to > thrive' and other feeding issues. I am sure a 10 > second check by midwives will cost the NHS a lot > less money in the long run than appointments for > all these babies being otherwise being referred to > specialists. > Sorry, fapl, I think you've misunderstood my post a little. I don't disagree with what you've written! Just because training is needed and/or not every examination results in a given outcome, I'm categorically not saying that more training and earlier systematic exams are not justified. Better training and earlier diagnosis is most certainly needed. My response was specifically to a previous post, elaborating why a short visual exam is not necessarily diagnostic of tongue tie. > The article, 3% of babies affected! Where did they > get that stat from?! It is loads more than that. Those are clinical stats. I can look up the journals when I next have the chance. From where do you get your different stats? Would be interesting to compare. Have often thought posterior tongue tie is underdiagnosed.

cashewnut Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can't understand why they don't just check all > newborns babies when they're born? Surely it would > take about 10 extra seconds for the doctor to take > a quick look when they do the other checks, and > save enormous amounts of grief for huge numbers of > people? > > Am I missing something?! It think the article touches briefly on this. Some babies appear to have a tongue tie, but they don't demonstrate any problems from it. So putting them through the stress of tongue tie release procedure would be unnecessary. Whereas other babies look normal but display all the other symptoms of tongue tie such as poor latch, fussiness, wt loss etc. This can be posterior tongue tie, or another problem altogether. Needs specialist diagnosis. So it's not just as simple as a dr checking Baby's mouth, which may be one reason it's not recognised and treated more efficiently. Xx

Read the rest here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26199591

Fragolina Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Saffron Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > For what age baby/child? Dream tubes might be > > better than a bed guard. Otherwise any > adjustable > > bed guard should be fine. > > > Hi Saffron, my son is 14 months & spends half the > night in my bed *hangs head in shame*. He's a real > wriggler & often throws himself around the bed. It > means I'm having to sleep with half an eye open > incase he hurls himself off! Mock shame, I hope! :) I was cosleeping with my daughter on a futon in her room until she was three!! I remember the wriggling so well... actually she was wriggling in our bed at 2am this morning. Sigh. xx