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I clicked on it with a mixture of curiosity and dread as to what an ED/ Australian hybrid would resemble. Actually it's jolly good and well done you, ms mainly.

Cuppatea, my very next post stated that walloping was clearly not acceptable. My phone screen does weird things and halved the original post. And, yes, drenching the baby certainly was an assault for your info. Otta, the chance of SW really agreeing with me is very low. I am reading heavy irony into her post. SW, are you genuinely agreeing with me? I might fall off my chair, if so. It boils down to basics. I am fundamentally traditional in my views about bringing up children and I expect adults to discipline them and control them as part of nurturing them and loving them to the ends of the earth. I see the "consistently saying no" thing as an unpleasant parent duty. I would much much rather eg supply them with an extra piece of cake for example and see their smiles. But parents haveto set boundaries and say no, in my view. If parents are failing in this - errrr see every stratum of British society for more details - then other parents have to step in to protect their children. That's where Im coming from. Incidentally a child who takes pleasure in drenching a baby is a completely different and much nastier child than one who drenches his or her older sister, for example.

Agreed.

Net, (if I may be so bold - you can always call me, "new") I see you have Coulson's front door as a double point target. I take it all back.

Oh dear God, Birch, this is awful. Was someone watching the flat? So sorry. How absolutely horrible.

Not normal, actually. Council needs to be involved. At the very least, the rubbish guys will refuse to collect. Mice normal - rats not.

Obviously, young children are at risk and need to be stable so they ge a seat or squash up together. Older children stand. SophieC, it is a question of respect for adults; that is why children should stand and adults sit. Ruth, I would have said and, in fact, have said loudly, "I would have stood normally but obviously I cannot." Then I would ask v politely a guy on his phone, for example, as if he hadn't noticed to give uphis seat. It works every time, admittedly about twice. The guys were as nice as anything and felt big about it. Fuschia, I would have ignored it. He is bonkers or else trying to point out others' perfidy. Either way, with three children on a bus, you don't want to be part of it. Mellors, I think you are trying to be ironic but it didn't quite come off.

(Not that I am suggesting that here) The misery of this phone makes me over summarise.

As a general proposition, children should not get seats when unrelated adults stand. Therefore I Get ona bus, withtwo children, I sit, one goes on knee and one stands. I would never take a seat for the standing one. However, here the chap had been given your seat so he had no complaint at all. If you chose to stand while your child sits that is between you and the child. But please all, don't indulge in emperor syndrome.

Moos, poor little chap. :-( Perhaps a stupid and non medical idea but how about very happy tales before bedtime? Where eg moos minor the hero does something super but not frightening?

Fuschia, FYI I am typing your name correctly each time and the phone changes it. Sorry. I am pedantic abOut things like this.

Fuchsia, I agree with everything you are posting save this. Responding by other than swiftly and strongly admonishing this child would not have been "virtuous and good". It would have been wrong by you child, shortsighted by the other child and the action of a weak adult. It isn't "extra nice" to allow your child to be assaulted by a spOilt brat/aggressive father combo.

Damn iPhone - I reached the bottom of some screen it had set up. I was about to say that walloping children is clearly not acceptable to us today but we have to find way of disciplining them and making them obey adults. The idea that Fuchsia was a "little bit rude" to the child concerns me, Dorothy, as it is exactly this type of attitude that has led us to where we are - a society where children have insufficient respect for adults. (in my view!)

Fuschia is not an unreasonable person. If she "glared",it was because something aboutthe first incident made her think badly of the child Ie it was worse than careless. The subsequent deliberate drenching of the baby was an assault bythe child - but beneath the age of criminal responsibility - and if the father had seen it and failed to stop it, he could be done for aiding and abetting the assault. Dorothy, this is quite serious stuff. Your comment is hilarious. All, the bigger issue is that some people here think that children have no need to take responsibility or behave. THat worries me. In a previous era, the man would have walloped the child there and then as would have any passing neighbour.

Wondering how old ms curtain is? And whether, if a school leaver, she was ever done for bullying?

"Hark when the night is falling...." Most women I know used to find kilts fabulously attractive but now are too downtrodden by children and routine to find much attractive. (save Clooney obviously)

Fuschia, quite right. Also, what a really nasty price of work the child was. I know naughty children but none would ever drench a baby. They are all instinctively sweet to babies.

Ok thanks.

Longer than I imagined! My ch were good sleepers but I found the whole responsibility thing daunting (and still do!). It tires me and makes me snap sometimes. I am more serious a person and less light hearted, partly because I am constantly convinced something awful is about to happen- falls, scissors, edges of things. That sort of ongoing concern!

Apenn? I think she put together a wonderful list at some stage. Does anyone know when the next Busybees happens? I looked on the Horniman website but must be missing something as it implied ev finished at the end of June.

Goodness I'd have a nervous breakdown, trying to keep an eye on so many children. My understanding had been that cms had one or two children but in their own homes.

Kristy, am I reading this correctly? you have two children - a toddler and a baby- who you look after all week, plus two little girls after school on Mon to Thurs. How does that work? does ofsted allow a childminder to have four small children under her care? It sounds extraordinary, especially when two of those are your own and are at a demanding age. In addition you can take the OP's child on a Monday?! I think I must be misreading this or else you must be employing someone else in addition as these numbers just cannot work. Would you mind clarifying as it could well be that I don't understand how cms work.

Did the incidents involve other children behaving badly and what was the approach taken? (if you don't mind my asking, thanks)

"The most" plus any superlative... As in " usain bolt isthe most fastest runner". Of course no-one has any clue now about comparatives and superlatives...

I considered it too actually and would put myself firmly in the anxious bucket! The best advice I got was that it would make me worse and worse and woudl result in unnecessary trips to hospital. The suggestion instead was to keep very very busy and so I was. After work after day, I would have at least one event arranged per evening. When I stopped at 38 weeks - babies both born at 38/6- I did a lot in the house and was v tired physically so no sleepless nights. For me, this was better than the monitor as I personally would have become obsessed by it. Different women would cope differently though and perhaps it would be great for you?