Earl Aelfheah

I'm glad there is another thread on this. The last one tailed off so quickly, it just left so much to still be discussed.

Travel in SE London has become ridiculously difficult of late, especially at weekends. The roads are being dug up everywhere, there's no tube and the trains rarely seem to be running. It's totally unacceptable. Must admit, it's the one thing which makes me consider moving out of the area.

I honestly have no idea who anonymous are (they are after all, anonymous). I imagine it's a fairly disparate, diverse and rag bag group though.

'bout now Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This quote from a masked protester sums it up > nicely (from the BBC). > > "it would've been a revolution, but I think the > weather's put everyone off, to be honest." Surely that was meant to be a joke / tongue in cheek, no?

The way that media and entertainment has changed has had a big impact on shared experience, values - regardless of your background. Two people could be born in the same street and have little in the way of a common culture. We all used to watch one of maybe two or three TV programmes which were on offer of a Saturday night for example. We all used to know who was no.1 in the music charts. There was only so much cultural product available and we all to a greater or lesser extent, shared similar reference points. Music, TV, film, Literature and art are now endlessly available and from all over the world. There is so much information, entertainment and culture from which you can chose.

Good news

it all sounds a little unhealthy to me.

To answer the subject of the post. There are clearly things which genuinely offend us, often quite rightly - but there has definitely been an increase in knee-jerk 'outrage', encouraged by angry mob social media.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'd have the lot down, deep cleaned and rebuilt > with some decent shops again and nice open > pleasant space for everyone to enjoy. > > Louisa. Gentrifier

originally the plan was to demolish the shopping centre and extend a pedestrianised Walworth Road across the plot to the northern roundabout, which would be transformed into a public square. In this context (a pedestrianised shopping street and public square) the whole thing made sense. Unfortunately the shopping centre now stays and the peninsula will be little more than a windswept smog filled non-place.

It's a ridiculous sum of money. We seem to have learnt nothing from the credit crunch.

ED - NAGAIUTB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mrure26 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I read that police could not trail them as they > > had no helmets! > > That's what we get for having Labour in power for > 13 years. It's all Labour's fault.

Great shots

So after the charges are introduced, what happens to stuff that's fly tipped? If you report things just left on the street will they be picked up for free? I do wonder what will happen?

Meanwhile anyone caught driving at 25mph on Sydenham Hill will feel the full force of the law.

rabbitears Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > uncleglen Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > And there was an illegal rave or something in > > London where petrol bombs were being thrown > > The "petrol bomb" line was classic Met > misinformation bollocks. They fed the line to the > media as "a suspected petrol bomb was reportedly > thrown", and then issued a release that said "a > reported petrol bomb". There was no photo or video > of such a thing, the Met did not formally claim > one was thrown and there was only ever one spoke > of. > > But the target audience for the misinformation > inferred exactly what they wanted you to infer - > that there was an urban battle between police and > anarchists where the sky was lit by the light of a > thousand Molotovs - rather than cops using a few > arseholes as an excuse to beat people with batons > at an unlicensed disco. Yes, the petrol bomb thing sounds extremely dubious to me. That said, if you're going to organise a weekend long rave (which was the original intention), there are better places to locate it than in a densely populated, residential area of central london. Really what did the organisers think was going to happen? It was always going to be shut down

What a bunch of massive bellends

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Actually, you weren't defrauded by Amazon, but by > a third party using the Amazon platform. I do > think that Amazon should pursue fraud, but they > weren't the principal in this, and I am assuming > you had no material loss. Sorry, wrote that from my phone and so not particularly eloquent. Of course it wasn't Amazon who defrauded me, but an individual using their platform. Amazon refunded me, so in fact it was Amazon ultimately who were defrauded. They decide not to pursue these cases, even were they have all the information necessary to catch the perpetrators, which I disapprove of. Amazon are not the most community minded of companies of course.

Peckham can be a bit rough. Surely this isn't a surprise to anyone?

I hate the rising inflection at the end of sentences - previously the domain of Australians, but now seemingly ubiquitous. Even my 6 year old does it. So annoying.

I was defrauded by Amazon. I called and managed to get everything sorted, but what I found galling is that they had the name and address of the perpetrator and refused to file a report with the police. They said it just want't worth their effort, that they write down such losses.

I've been with an online bank since around 2000 and I can't think of a time when I've set foot inside a bank since. Whilst I'm sure there are many good reasons to visit a physical branch, for the majority of people they do seem a little redundant.

Thanks for the heads up James.

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They are turning the northern roundabout into a peninsular: https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-projects/elephant-and-castle