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OK, but really, it's still possible to go for a drink without children being about, if you're that bothered by their presence during the day.

I have been wondering myself. Does seem to be making painfully slow progress. Anyone know what's happening?

Just thinking my way down the lane: Cherry Tree - no kids EDT - no kids Bishop - maybe some kids (afternoon only) Actress - loads of kids (afternoon only) Toasted - maybe some kids (afternoon only) New pop up who's names to awful to mention - no kids Palmerston - rarely kids Franklins - no kids House of Tippler - explicit no kid policy The Lordship - not many kids The Plough - loads of kids (afternoon only) The Castle - no kids The Great Exhibition - some kids (afternoon only) I'd say that's a pretty even split. None of them have kids in of an evening in my experience. Doubtless others will disagree.

Oh, fair enough, may have misunderstood. Seems to me though that there are at least a couple of pubs which are kid free most of the time (EDT, Castle spring to mind probably others). Doesn't seem that unreasonable that families frequent pubs during the day, especially when they're set up for it (selling food / coffee etc). Personally, I don't have that much trouble finding somewhere to enjoy a drink without the company of kids, as long as I can shake my own.

... and yet I bet there are others on this forum who will swear that the EDT is overrun with children most of the time.

I just don't recognise the picture being painted of 'no pubs being child free in the evenings'. During the middle of the day, then sure, there are certain pubs which sell food and coffee and are generally geared up to famillies - and to moan about kids being there is a bit silly. In the evenings, I can go for a drink without kids being 'everywhere'. If a kid is going nuts and their parents are ignoring them, then that's clearly ridiculous, but how often does that happen really. This whole thing reminds me of the popular forum assertion that you can't walk down the pavements of ED without being mowed down by a cyclist everytime you step outside. It all sounds too much like confirmation bias to me.

Whether it's just motorbikes using this as a cut through, riding at speed, or actually racing each other, or a bit of both, is all a bit of a moot point. It seems to me that's it's pretty unreasonable behaviour and the the OP shouldn't have been attacked for suggesting so.

Milk76 suggested that he had seen scooters racing each other. That's what I was referring to.

CCTV only works if the bikes are actually registered to the person riding them of course. A lot of these battered up scooters won't be.

This is the area along which motorbikes are *alledgedly* racing each other: [edited to add the * caveat]

There's just no need to race motorbikes through a pedestrian area. It's stupid, lazy and potentially dangerous.

There is no point in the Labour Party pursuing the same agenda as the consevatives. Yes, it would make them more electable (clearly, as the conservatives have been elected), but what would be the point? They shouldn't follow public opinion, they should attempt to lead it. An opposition, by definition, need to represent something distinct. If the electorate reject it, then fine, that's democracy... but at least people will have been given a genuine choice. The perception that political parties are all the same, is partly why so many don't engage.

Agree with Louisa.

The Telegraph were calling on Conservatives to vote for Corby (to 'destroy the Labour party')the other day. Didn't seem to concerned about ensuring a strong opposition then http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11741861/How-you-can-help-Jeremy-Corbyn-win-and-destroy-the-Labour-Party.html

I'm dubious. Anyone else actually witnessed any of this?

Jeremy is right. As I understand it, the IMF suggested that Athens should receive a 30-year grace period before it has to start paying off its debts. it seems to me that something much more generous needs to be done with regards debt relief, if Greece is ever going to rebuild and (eventually) be in a position to start repaying creditors.

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As long as it doesn't have TVs everywhere and sells decent beer, I'll be happy

Damn, no javelin practice then.

I agree that Sturgeon should have kept out of it.

I think there have been material falls in prices in Ed since April last year, when things were really going crazy.

Despite the belief that all anyone talks about on this forum is house prices - there hasn't actually been a thread on it for a while. So I'm starting one. Seems to me that there are a hell of a lot of properties sitting on the market and a lot of price reductions. Properties which were asking for around ?1m, now seem to be dropping to under ?800K. Does anyone know what your average 3 bed house is actually selling for nowadays?