Ann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps we shouldn't be too quick > to condemn elements of our society, I thought that by definition gypsies aren't part of "our society", as they've chosen to live outside of the rules and constraints of society. I'd be surprised if many of them would class themselves as being part of "our society". I find the phrease "travellers" amusing. Most of these people live in static sites, like the one near Millwall. Not much travelling going on there. The only time they seem to buy in to "our society" is when they line up for benefits taken from a purse that they haven't contributed to. Also aren't true gypsies meant to hail from Romania and not Southern Ireland?