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This was a great pub, until Antic sold it off for housing. I'm pleased that someone is trying to resurrect it. Antic is an odd company (although I understand it may be two), running some great/interesting places including the EDT, but at the same time I fear that they are just a real estate/property business waiting for their time to cash in on their assets such as the Ravensbourne and the Forest Hill Hotel. We are fortunate to have our own pub in the area saved by the people (the Ivy House) so you may wish to contact them. I'll separately send you some contacts involved in saving this and other pubs in South London. A general point is if you don't have something useful to say then don't post. Obviously that is a patronising/condescending comment to make..... It may be better use of your time to look at the links, or just simply Google the pub as there is loads of good stuff out there. Good luck Rumandcoke, you may see me sometime (I bought a fair wack of the Ivy community shares, so I have put my money where my mouth is).

Just catching up on the Grauniad. By the time I've read Saturday's (the only one I get) it is too late to write to them on any of the issues raised. Two letters caught my eye - one questioning where you get makrut lime from - many of the ingredients in the food mag are unheard of https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/mar/01/makrut-lime-the-weird-and-wonderful-citrus-at-the-heart-of-thai-flavours. There is always SMBS foods, Khans or other exotic grocers in Peckham I expect. The other was from someone at Borough Market dissing the population for buying cheap, processed food of dubious origin from the big supermarkets and asking for the government to intervene. Got me thinking - I probably had rellies working there at the turn of the last century and my family continued in the wholesale fruit and veg trade until the early 80s (one was a minor celeb). When I encountered Borough Market in the 90s frequenting a little used Market Porter, and Wheatsheaf, with signs up that they were open at weekends, please come, the market was a backwater. I think Jamie Oliver put it on the map and now it, and the pubs are heaving from Friday till Sunday. But I have never bought any food there, and balk at the prices. Whilst understanding that the percentage of income spent on food has dropped, as has the general quality, and I am not immune to buying occasionally at farmers markets. I thought back to my time when I regularly spent ?20 at the Cheese Block and thought how light my bag was before doing similar at Northcross Road (still love both places). So I can afford to shop at these outlets, yet struggle with paying a fiver for a loaf. How and why would the masses, many financially challenged, afford to spend four times more on their weekly food bill? (Channel Five or whatever will have the programmes on 'benefit street' or whatever but please ignore these easy targets) Separately I do love Lidl, have to be choosy either getting your staples at cheaper prices or some of the unusual stuff when it is around. And of course the bakery is superior to the big chains. Fruit and veg can be iffy, but there are some great Turkish Outlets for this. And SMBS/Khans/Peckham stalls when you want to be a little eclectic. More pub conversations. Good to hear views. Yes I am a hypocrite. Got that one out of the way.

I'm really trying to make this my last post on the subject. Ab29 - if it is illegal then write to your local MP, write to the Secretary of State for Transport, complain to the Local Government Ombudsman, Judicially Review Southwark. On the latter I was involved in the Crystal Palace Campaign opposing the development of the top site with retail and a cinema. I love this article's title: Crystal Palace nimbys in court https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/archive/in-brief-crystal-palace-nimbys-in-court It's behind a paywall but essentially the Campaign was unsuccessful in the JR, but a single mother on legal aid (I expect that this couldn't happen anymore) was, and the developers pulled out. Final comment - a consultation is not a referendum (can you imagine a referendum say on bringing back hanging, or leaving the EU - surely not). It is a measure of the more extreme views, pro and anti.

Happy for you to start a separate thread. I was just interested in whether students may/could earn some money and help fill some of the current vacancies. It's a pub discussion. DKH - the clubs shut earlier in them days, I hated the music, having to dress up (no trainers here mate), the cost of drinks and not being able to have a conversation with those I was trying to dance with. Although I never went to Studio 54 and probably only appreciated the genre decades later. Occasionally they would have student nights but I look back and the rock/pop of my era was dreadful. Appreciated clubs far more when I lived in Liverpool, Cassas or the Razz anyone?

I've just reread the thread from the start. There was no mention what actually happened. Without reading the article this was not clear from the thread. It could have been better titled and explained. You were the first to say that this was not linked to the LTN, any casual reader would have thought that it was. You posted quite reasonably but others perhaps should do what I did, ie reread the thread, and think about how quick they were to condemn me. I should have just liked Goldilocks posts and got on with my housework. I've posted before all this pro and anti LTN rhetoric is not helpful. My position is I want to reduce the number of motorised vehicles on the road.

There will be an issue of comparing apples with pears in terms of generations of students. Late night clubbing, late night boozing, cheap booze and on line gaming weren't around when I was a student and hence we were less nocturnal and could even get up for a 9am lecture from time to time. Having said that we had late night Monopoly sessions (had to take it home at Xmas as it caused so much friction) and an awful lot of our grant went on relatively cheap booze at the Student Union.

So hands up, I saw this as another anti-LTN thread - it could have been better titled and I always like a brief explanation rather than posting a link. But it has morphed into exactly that, yet another anti-LTN thread (and I am surprised that someone hasn't accused Southwark of encouraging criminality.... Rocks - I'm not going to count but I expect you have now posted 1000s of times on the subject. I genuinely hope you do have other interests in life. And concerning the last post, perhaps footpaths, bridal ways and any other routes not designed for motorised transport, but accessible to mopeds etc have also added to crime. Really??

Hopefully something that we can have an uncontroversial discussion about and avoid Brexit and the PM (I expect Cat is just counting down the number of posts until this happens....) Just seen on the news about large number of vacancies, particularly in some sectors such as retail and hospitality. There are probably a million or two students of higher education running up fairly massive debts. Do we not therefore have a workforce readily available? Before anyone goes on about conscription and fascist states I ran up bugga all debt having a grant and fees paid for, and did a little bar work and briefly worked as a market porter. Most students of my generation worked so why should the current lot do this either. I doubt whether few of the current student generation would get up at 5 to earn minimum wage. I did work every summer but I expect most do nowadays. Probably most relevant was picking vegetables, with a generally settled Romany community. So what is to encourage more to do part time jobs during their studies - particularly now learning is so much more flexible? Anyway a pub discussion rather than development of government policy.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh, the smarmy self-satisfaction 🥱 > If you read the thread before correcting everyone > it was the Daily Mail article which made the link > to LTNs. > The clue is in the title of the DM article. > 🙄 Charming. Nice if you desist from personal attacks. The title of the post linked it to LTNs, irrespective of the Mail. At that point there were four LTN threads in a row at the top of this Forum.

What a load of fuss. You get road rage every day on our roads. I'm not sure why you have raised this beyond a tut tut, or if you had to raise it why you needed to link it to LTNs. I've had hassle before telling people not to drive the wrong way down one way streets. Didn't feel any need to start a thread.

Looking at a few recent posts it could appear that some of you are trawling Twitter and the net looking for any negative stories about Southwark, TfL, cyclists or those supporting LTNs. A shame. Separately having been on some rare road trips in the capital recently congestion appears as bad as it was when I first moved to London yonks ago. I expect much of this is due to making the congestion charge 24/7 throwing cross London traffic East and West, and (as I rarely drive in the working day) many of the bus lanes have also become 24/7. Even more likely to use public transport in future.

Thanks all, surprising that this doesn't happen more often (or that other NHS hospitals are not like the one that may or may not be near a driving range near Harrow). I'll take this up with them and hope to get some sort of response. Being in hospital essentially deaf and blind was not fun for my aunt.

I detest this government but please stop making simplistic comments. They have shed loads of evidence on the attitude of society and are informed both by the hard and soft science. They've made a pigs ear out of much of the response, particularly in the early days, but have come up with a policy, like it or not that we are now out of lockdown and therefore do not need to socially distance or wear masks. Oh and your house, your rules.

I had a bumper crab apple crop last year, but bugger all this, and I am surrounded by apple trees in neighbouring gardens full of apples. It's been a weird year for nature. The odd wasp and bug would eat the crab apples, but green squawky things didn't. They matured in August, all three crab apples. Odd fruit, make some jars of crab apple jelly but not a lot more to do with them.

There were always numerous private cars parked on Rye Lane, you could say it is ironic that Southwark enforce the LTN but did not enforce the controls over Rye Lane when it was open to buses and limited traffic. I got quite obsessed by this a few years ago so have been in the place that many anti LTNers are now.

Thanks Legal, it is the following Saturday, I'll have a cycle through. I'll be on a push bike, wearing clothes.

Jimmy Lydon's peak (he didn't set a high bar...) Not even sure he was in the band at this point

This thread is becoming more and more an avenue for those of you who are angry about LTNs to let off steam. What was Rye Lane like a couple of years ago? Numerous cars parked on double yellow lines causing congestion to buses. Well I am glad the former has gone. If there was one bone to pick with Southwark it was parking enforcement, which I did (but got no where....) Thanks so much to Gragm for some positive suggestions. I posted before that it was not beyond to wit of man/woman to come up with solutions about how to get those most needy from bus stops to the station. I'm pleased at least one of you has thought about solutions.

I'd love to cycle over to the demo tomorrow, but have to family matters over the water. But it continues to worry me the anger towards cyclists. You may not like the LTNs, you may not believe in the measures to encourage active travel, but surely you can't disagree with the principle. It feels like the anti vaxxer movement where whilst people can exercise free choice on getting the jab do they really need to campaign against the majority who are happy, and at times intimidate those involved in the vaccination programme? I feel concerned that a number of you could get quite aggressive, this is after you have spent been out hurling abuse at groups of cyclists on the various segregated cycle routes. A gross exaggeration but take a step back but think how your posts and possible beliefs will look to the typical man/woman on the Clapham Omnibus?

I'm surprised that following the PMs coup in reverting to imperial units we can't pretend that Fahrenheit is centigrade - so I understand that temperatures will be up to 65 degrees tomorrow, hotter than Death Valley...

She was 94, got admitted a fall at short notice. Surely the hospital and care home have the capability to keep personal belongings safe. And the duty to do this, particularly with such a vulnerable patient. I'm not sure how you put a label on a hearing aid....

94 year old aunt got shunted between different wards in a large hospital and rehab over the summer following a fall. Hearing aids, glasses, and some other personal effects got lost. Gentle enquiries by my sister got nowhere. Nothing on line about patients' valuables, including policies or complaints procedures. Difficult as this was all remote from immediate family so we were relying on carers and neighbours (please don't go into how the family helped as this involved numerous calls with hospital and social care at the time, geographically we simply could not be there as this was in Harrow). Any views or experience that you may have appreciated. I will be complaining formally, it was out of order and she spent weeks not being able to read or hear properly. Back at home now with her live in carer. I do visit and will be there as the weekend. She has no direct family ie children.

Urgh - reminds me of Mazola parties.... https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Mazola_party I'd only heard of them rather than participated....... Thinking about Russia and the like, for domestic customers much depends on whether our energy companies fixed prices ahead or buy on the spot market. Little has been said on this.

Following the lack of substance of his speech today I have just offered the PM my services as a speech writer, citing two examples (England players booed for taking the knee, abuse of players after the final) and giving him clear simple messages he should have given. I may be out of action for some time, either working from Number 10 or imprisoned in the Tower of London. If the latter I hope that SE22 organises and gets me out one way or another - think of Wat Tyler. Which reminds me of when Hugh Cornwall, former Strangles lead man had a short sentence for class A drug possession. Jimmy Lydon, John's pretty unsuccessful brother, organised a campaign to keep him in prison.

Who is moralising? I'm just stating fact. The vast majority of motorists are not those groups listed above. Maybe most of us posting don't represent the 'typical' motorist. As most are outside of the metropolis that is not surprising. But to keep on referring to groups with particular needs appears disingenuous.