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I seem to be being stalked. Such fun. (e) Got a quote and fitting at a carpet shop in Hayes, which was good and I have been back to it since. Seemed to know something about keeping customers happy. (f) I'll never know, as Hamptons International clearly didn't want me to move to the Dulwich Triangle. Mr Scotchbrooks was very helpful though and did sort me out. (g) Well SE23.com was also created, which is a good demonstration of social networking gone wrong. The thought police wouldn't allow me to be stalked on that site. I imagined that with all the debate going on about Thatch someone would have ventured a view on how the country may have shaped out. I'm sure that we would have had the internet somehow.

Not sure if the Pikeys comment was a wind-up ???? If not perhaps you should apply for the Youth Police and Crime Commissioner in Kent. I believe that language goes down well there.

Any suggestions? Fuller thread on the wanted site. I've tried all the local timber merchants, they only do fancy stuff

The Thatcher stuff has probably run its course. But I am amused about how many younger people have viewed her impact/legacy. I thought the world was fine in 1979. I was interested in girls, alcohol, football and music. I don't recall rotting rubbish and corpses in the street as all the newscasts seem to suggest. Maybe a selective memory as I was more interested in trying to get my leg over, and upset by the injustice of what a cold winter had done to the first division. So, I'd love to hear views on what the world had looked like if (a) Callaghan had called a 1978 election which he would have won, or got his vote of confidence from the TUC on wage constraint in 79, and again he would have won (b) The Falklands had never happened and SDP had got into power in 83. © Kinnock hadn't frightened Basildon man, or the Sun hadn't intervened, and labour got in in 1992 (d) John Smith was still alive. I really don't believe all this tosh about Britain being a dreadful place in the late 70s. To a kid growing up in the 70s they were much more fun than the 60s. And those ten years older thought the same about the 60s vs the 50s. Similarly that all nationalised industry was bad. I recall the electricity generation and telecoms being world leaders. Although no doubt someone will tell me that was because too much state money was put into them.

The exam question is what on earth is this thread about. Can someone summarise it in the way the Sun would (Sun journos are very good at geting their message across clearly). Agree wholeheartedly with coments on Mrs T and footy though.

Clearly inspired by the nations outpourings next Wednesday, but what are my readers alternative experiences during national events. I'll give mine. Chuck and Di's wedding (1981). Picnic, swim in the river and a J with friends 1985 Live aid. Punting on the river (funny, dunno why rivers seem to feature). 1997 Di's funeral, weekend in Vienna, caught some of the coverage on CNN which was strange to say the least. 200? Live eight/ Earth or whatever it was called. Complaining to anyone who couldn't get away how much I hated Bono/Pink Floyd. 2011 Diamond Jubilee - heat exhaustion in Morocco Some planned, some accidental. I am sure others have better stories. Just some light hearted banter.

Hadn't realised that the internet police were watching. One of my first threads was 'why are you lot so juvenile' due to the tendancy to go off track and start playing silly games/sharing in jokes. Makes a nice distraction from Thatcher though. Michael Palaeologus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Vicanna Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Dumb games like the one you're playing distract > > from a forum's purpose. People soon get tired > of > > discovering that a one or two word > contributions > > constitute the majority of updates. They lose > > interest. Urban75 used to be pretty busy. But > then > > the general forum (the most popular) got bogged > > down with the word games and bandwidth thread. > > After just 63 posts and less than a month > registered on the Forum, you are qualified to make > such statement how?

I am going to change my name to Malibu. Like it! Its not just a North and South thing, most of the Midlands despised her as well, and of course Wales and Scotland. But of course a lot of people live in the Sarf. I was in Oxforshire during the miners strike and there were rabid people there saying that they would rather burn furniture than give into the miners. Probably the same people who supported the unconstitutional methods she used to break the miners and print workers. The big battle (was it Orgreave?) almost had sign posts to the miners to come in to the ambush. Ah the enemy within, such charming words (what did she say about the poll tax protestors?). Good debate on NI. Some people over there are more rabid than those I worked with in Oxfordshire. Three landslide elections? The swing was mainly away from the Liberals in 79 and this was an open goal (like Blair in 97, and what should have been Dave in 2010), 83 don't count (and of course SDP split the labour vote) and 87 I just got pissed instead (although I expect that was due to all the negative propaganda against a very principalled but probably unelectable opposition leader). Anyway, just remembered another reason why I despised her - her hatred of football and that she effectively destroyed a working class game, no doubt opening the door to Murdoch and similar. Good point about let's leave the dead, dead, and get on with hating some of those alive. She's been effectively dead for years in any case. Churchill wasn't necessarily the popular leader that we think he was but 65 years later he is remembered for one main thing. Yours, liberal scum xxxx

Strangely there is an update on the Chumbawumgabawumba web site.

I was slightly to young to vote in 1979 but lived both through her rule and legacy. I was there at the poll tax riots and earlier lived in Glasgow where my fellow students blamed me for her. What a shame Galteieri didn't put off his invasion for another year or two, as we would have had an SDP landslide in '83 and a centre left government. Now that may have been awful, but the country would be a very different place. I am not dancing on her grave as others may think and haven't even uncorked the champers, but perlease don't see this through rose tineted specs. (I've got BBC on in the background, and both Tony Cameron, and David Bluggghhh, in the background saying almost the same things). I am simply saying what many think but aren?t brave enough to say (or to be charitable, feel it would be in bad taste). Neil Kinnock has done a very measured piece on the BBC and Alexi Sayle simply cracked me up on Channel 4 with his irreverence, although I don?t know why the channel apologised for him (surely it wasn?t for saying she was bonkers). So what were my problems? Divisive, ?me first? leading to greed, blind faith in the market (how flawed was that) city bonuses whilst destroying communities, increasing inequality. Taking the UK from one extreme to another, with the Unions playing into her hands Supporting despots whilst not brokering for peace for example Ireland and South Africa and her own crimes against humanity. What has been lacking is hardly any of her cabinet have spoken up for her, and of course she was dumped by her party. Now I can recognise that she challenged the system ? women, state educated. Where are the state educated women now in government? And that Major was more of a moderniser and that Blair took many of her policies through to fruition. And you can look at the bigger picture ? well Stalin killed all those people but he did modernise the country (clearly I am using this as an extreme example). So we have the failed privatisation of the utilities where we neither own production or manufacture our own trains/power stations etc. The failed deregulation of the city with most of our eggs in the same basket. And social isolation and exclusion. And she did to a ?U? turn between 87 and 89 from nuclear power to burning much of our natural gas. Now this is my take and obviously others will disagree. More importantly, even more important than Stephen Fry being spotted, is how did Paxman not give Bangor the points for the first question on University Challenge. What was the Rio conference and subsequent conferences colloquially called? Bangor Uni ?The Earth Summit?. No says Paxman ? ?earth summits?.

Ding dong the witch is dead, which old witch, the witch is dead ding dong the wicked witch is dead.

Good spot ????, althought there is also a Clapton link as well. But thought you's make more of Cabaret, old Chum.

How do people type at the same time? As watching the documentary I hasten to add.

There were a lot of people who supported the far right in Germany, Italy and Spain before the war (WWII not the Britpop war). That included some of the Royal Family (not sure whether they still do but Harry gave a good impression). Dame Maggie Smith was also known to state her support of fascists as recent as 1969. I didn't see anything about that in the tabloids. Of course I am sure that National Socialism isn't the far right. I suggest we all regularly watch Cabaret - not necessarily because it is set at the time that support was rising for Hitler but because it is an excellent film. I do recall a young PDC singing Tomorrow belongs to me, though. More importantly it would be quite fun if Sunderland went down.

You are just too lazy to be arsed KRod. That is what SraferJack said about me when I dared to put a repetitive thread on this site. But I am not StraferJack so I'll happily direct you to some earlier discussion: www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,1014053,1043492#msg-1043492 Sorry this really is petty retribution which I aologise for

Stupid but not lazy my dear friend. I searched first but couldn't find one. Happy to take your offer of a beer as an olive branch. And the Ivy House adventure has gone up a notch or two.

I've read and listened a little about the chanting at the recent England matches, particularly that aimed at the Ferdinands. There are denials of course but I have a lot of time for some of the people on Radio 5. Here they reported that there was more tension than normal at the San Marino match and some faces from the past were seen, who thought they could get round their banning orders. The other thing 5 live reported was the chanting of 'No surrender (to the IRA)' a chant a recall from 20 years ago which I found extremely ignorant. Now I want my national team to do well, but I really can't stand the jingoism/ fuex nationalism you get (and that bloody Sheffield Wednesday band). A mate went to an England match against Wales a year or so ago and got fed up with the Sheep Shagger stuff aimed at the sheep shaggers, sorry the Welsh. I was in Cologne during the Germany world cup which was brilliant, until the atmosphere took a tumble in advance of England fans arriving. Sorry I've digressed from racist chanting to my issues with English support as a whole.

Morrocco will be too hot if you go towards the desert, believe me I was there a year ago at the of May. May be OK on the coast and Marakech is managable. Didn't find the hassle that others report though, and it is lovely and very good value. I felt that Viet Nam was tourism by numbers, it was difficult to get off the beaten track. Perhaps it is less so now. Sri Lanka was lovely both in 97 and 03, not sure how much the peace dividend will have changed it. It is beautiful withouth the level of hassle and issues over hygiene that India has. India is hopefully still an amazing experience but no doubt much changed since I went there in 01. We liked Oaxaca in Mexico (pronounced wahaka) and headed down to the hippy surfing beaches. Bloody hot at Xmas so now?! Cuba was interesing and not too touristy. Do tell us where you went.

Where you can invest in the community project.

For christ sakes get off your high horses with you. It was a playful thread. I read the Guardo sometimes and I sense that some of the material is drawn from around here. People tell me that's where a lot of the journos . If I am particularly bothered by an article I actually write to them. Once in a blue moon I even get a letter published. I also knew that artists and actors also live here, which often means that an area tends towards the intellectual left. But I am sure that this isn't a rule and I am sure someone will write me a thesis on it. Mind you I like the above post.

I love slagging off the Grauniad for lazy journalism and using their home land for easy material. I tell everyone that East Dulwich, Forest Hill, Nunhead, Brockley etc are full of Guardian journos, actors and luvvies. I can list a few actors and comediens, but journos? Lucy Mangan was in Catford - others?

Surely there is a thread on this site somewhere. There is nothing else like the Ivy House, certainly not in East Dulwich.

If the RS had had the sense to commit mass suicide in the early 70s they would have been legendry, a la Doors or Hendrix, or acrimoniously split up. Can't think of a painful enough death for our friends M&S. Seriously though even though I really don't know why the Stones are highlighting, a more interesting line-up then everywhere else. Shame it is so popular. And has sold out, but there again apart from the Fall and Half Man Half Biscuit that is what entertainment is about.

Deptford has a fantastic array of interesting shops. Yes it is a bit front line but that adds to the attraction. Why are you lot so shallow? I'm proud not to have a Waitrose or M&S and I can always sneak off to Beckenham in disguise for a crafty shop. Or Greenwich by the sounds of it (which in defence has always been posh).

So I am 22, and when the Glastonbury line up is finalised, days before the festival, I hear that Elvis Costello is headlining on the Saturday night. What luck I think. And he truly was excellent, one of his best performances (and I've seen some bad ones as well). Well I am no longer 22, but if I was and I had bought my ticket, I'd be tempted to throw myself under a bus if I heard that some 70 year old has beens who haven't done anything interesting since the early 70s were playing. No I am not talking about Primal Scream or The Stone Roses, alhough both have close connections with the old farrts. Can someone explain FFS what has gone wrong? Actually perhaps I have been a little blinkered, as there are one to two bands I'd like to see and quite a few of them I've seen that I would not be embarassed to tell others. And by coincidence Costello is also headlining. Am I aloud to argue with myself on a thread? Trouble is the sycophantic BBC made such a fuss about those old gits playing as if it was important. http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/history/1984/