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Just what we need, another thread knocking Southwark Council. Gets a bit tiresome.

Bad day for the Menaces too, losing 4-0 but not relegated and a lovely lap of honour. Join us there next season!

Thinking of Richard Sharp's resignation Friday and Dominic Raab the precious week brought me back to an early football fans' website (Everton). This used a profanity checker that replaced swear words with Liverpool players. Top trump in four lettered words was 'Souness'. If somebody was behaving badly they were therefore a complete Souness. So what rude word would Raab replace, and ditto for Johnson (cock being an obvious one of course), Braverman, Patel, Raab and Sharp?? For balance we could have some SNP MSPs, Lib Dems and Labour mps, and it would be interesting whether Farage would be top trump. And thinking of top Trump if you break wind in public rather than asking the vicar if he/she wanted more tea you could simply apologise for doing a Donald Admin, is this something you could set up? [PS totally in jest]

Spookily enough Zenora who Harry Belefonte sang about was the previous poster on this thread. Hope the gets a lot of recognition for his music and an obligatory BBC programme.

Two for the price of one today

I've just heard that there is a national emergency and from the accent of the announcer that the UK has been taken over by the yanks. A few of us tried this a few years ago https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/43480 And there was a pop song in support of becoming the 51st state

Hope you will be offering booze as well! Love the frontage

Funnily enough I bumped into plod on a bike on Brenchley Gardens today. I asked him what was going on as this was the most interesting thing being discussed on social media at the moment. He said he didn't do Nunhead Cemetery but Peckham Rye and he would find out. I told him not to bother. I've had an exciting day today. So it is not high police priority whatever the reason.

Sounds like they did a quick swoop to check on/inform dog walkers, no doubt due to some concerns from local people. Sounds like pretty standard neighbourhood policing, many complain that there is not enough of this. Hardly a story and don't even know why I am posting (probably because there isn't anything on EDF at the Forum and desperately not trying to respond to all the rabid stuff on Nextdoor.com Perhaps those interested could check with the Safer Neighbourhood Team, local Councillor etc.

No such thing as having too many bikes Alexander, although stealing one is going to far! I've a few liberated ones, dumped and left on estates/housing trusts and the like, but always needing time and money to get back on the road and my latest find is so worn out nothing is worth saving, It's got a Bike Register number but can't believe in its state it will be wanted by the owner, who presumably dumped it in the first place, so once I have checked this it will go to a charity. Sorry not relevant to Lime bikes etc. (I know someone who works for various housing groups who has to remove dumped bikes from time to time)

The logic on vastly suppressed demand is nonsense I'm afraid, high fuel prices will reduce demand a little but not as in a classical market response (a difficult to read paper on this is attached - good luck to anyone reading it but hopefully there is an economist out there who can translate) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/395119/road-traffic-demand-elasticities.pdf Tax incomes have fallen by 10s of billions since the end of fuel duty escalation factor in the early noughties. Some of that money will be returned to the exchequer through other goods (and services) and no doubt have other benefits but does not fully compensate for the loss from fuel duty - and as said this policy generally benefits the wealthy. As for fags the number of smokers has gone down by a third in the last 50 years, and I expect typical consumption has fallen in a similarly drastic manor. But this will be to numerous factors including ostracizing smokers (ban on workplace, places of entertainment et), public attitudes, peer pressure, understanding of the health impacts, as well as a massive increase in cost as duty has escalated. But cigarette smoking is a leisure activity (or addiction), much of motoring is utility (although addiction and pleasure also come into car use) As for consultation outer London would never vote for the ULEZ, we don't do government by referendum - you wouldn't want to do this due to the risk of great harm eg something daft like leaving the EU. Oh..... Consultation is the opportunity to finesse things a little and look to greater buy in. As for something with less impact on those less well off who need a car - linking it to expendable income would be a better option such as enforcement of motoring offences through the courts but that is rather clunky for something like the ULEZ. As others have agreed in the past on this thread smart road user charging makes the greatest sense from virtually angle apart from public acceptance. But a braver government would impost it unlike those in the last 20 years. Just badge it as a more equitable way to collect private motor vehicle taxation in your next manifesto. There's a wider conversation on enforcement and proportionality and I may actually agree with many in that it the penalty was a little lower there would be much greater acceptance of the measures. I get caught from time to time in my occasional drive, my own fault but a slap on the wrist (say £25) in some parts of the country hurts much less than the costs in the capital (I'd argue the same on getting things wrong on public transport). I used to get quite excited by this and there was a commitment under I think a Cameron government to address excessive penalties - but this was aimed at private clampers not local authorities. In a former life I got a few penalties going into excess on meter parking in central London (remember feeding them with coins?) but it was a relatively low amount and I can't remember the last time I parked in central London.

Hmm Wayne, not exactly helpful. Either you are unaware of how beautiful the city of Durham is and other parts of the county, or you are showing why much of the rest of the country dislikes the south east - think Harry Enfield and 'Lodsamoney'. So much for leveling up eh? Of course in the old days it would have been seen as banter, but nobody posts on the Lounge anymore apart from a few sad'os like me. As for where to move my thoughts are as earlier, Sussex and the like are nice to visit but after living in the metropolis for so long I'd find it could be a bit dull and a bit to Tory for me (OK there are pockets of liberalism/bohemian thought). Friend lived in Kingston near to Lewes and as well as the downs you have the double benefit of the brewery. Fast trains back to the smoke are always a benefit as well.

So do you agree with this direct action? To me it is sign that Thatchers Britain is alive and well. Me first and sod society. I don't hear motorists and motorists' groups talking about the £100 the typical motorist is saving a year due to the cut in fuel duty, that is money that could go on hospitals, schools social care etc, or the 10s of Billions that the country could have benefited from over the last twenty years or so, Here's a nice lefty article on why the rich benefit from all of this https://www.smf.co.uk/commentary_podcasts/fuel-duty-cut-giveaway-to-rich/ Sadly it is not just middle England that whinges on about anything that costs motorists or disuades driving, it is lefty metropolitan types too, Step back from self interests please. (same argument for CPZs as well.)

Nextdoor has been infiltrated by the government publicizing their red meat policies on anti-social behaviour. And you are not allowed to comment on the official announcement. They will be getting hippy's hair cut in the streets next (as in the book/film Centigrade 234. Well I suppose it suits Nextdoor as most posts are reactionary on it about dodgy goings on and dodgy people. It makes the EDF seem a hotbed of progressive thinking. Well at least the Libdems, as pointless as they are, have spoken out unlike Labour kowtowing

Perhaps Admin could step in and freeze this tedious thread. It's well past it's best, it's passed on! This thread is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'It's s a stiff! Bereft of life, It rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the site it'd be pushing up the daisies! 'It's metabolic processes are now 'istory! It's off the twig! 'It's kicked the bucket, It's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-THREAD!! Free speech eh?

Just for clarity why is this a bromance? A rather gender specific term. What's wrong with a virtual love-in, although it looks like whatever our gender, sadly it looks like will never meet.......

I think he was generally discredited after his book on bringing up babies, although I like some of his ideas.

I asked my good friend Spizz about this as he hadn't know where Captain Kirk was. Fortunately he found him (spoiler alert, bit of a video nasty) https://louderthanwar.com/wheres-captain-kirk-spizz-finally-meets-shatner/ David Gedge was less helpful.

This might just be the two of us. I was thinking of posting under the imaginative title no laughing matter. Total overreaction and sadly Labour are supporting this. Not sure why they didn't listen to the government advisory committee: www.gov.uk/government/publications/nitrous-oxide-updated-harms-assessment The response is thank you advisory committee but no thank you https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nitrous-oxide-updated-harms-assessment/government-response-acmd-nitrous-oxide-review-accessible Do something useful and curb your mates in the tobacco industry selling vapes to school kids, or something substantial on online betting - noting of course for balance that it was Blair who opened this Pandora's box. Or maybe even the legitimate highs of sugar in our diet...... https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/deep-concerns-over-public-health-as-the-bmj-reveals-mps-links-to-organisation-backed-by-tobacco-industry/

Consumer law takes into account expectations of quality, if you buy a Fiat Panda don't expect the quality of a Rolls Royce Phantom. That said my one dealing with Poundland over poor quality bird food (they'd switched suppliers to keep to the magic one pound) was swift, and a token quickly came in the post. I didn't rant in my on line complaint but explained the previous product was great and the replacement not, encouraging them to switch back. It reminds me of being at college many moons ago and a flat mate was dead excited about his budget burgers, that fell through the grill pan disintegrating when cooking.

This thread, and the one on the recent protest at the Crystal Palace Tavern remind me of the glory days of the Lounge when we'd have good natured, and sometimes not so good natured debate. Sadly the Lounge is very quiet nowadays and not sure where the characters have all gone - even Lou would find it hard to pick a battle . It's probably quite natural for posts to go off at a tangent, but respect to admin for explaining ground rules. I've had many a laugh at the expense of what I see as the typical East Dulwich stereotype but hope that for most it is just a bit of banter, and I can take the mickey out of myself. When it does get vitriolic it tends to backfire, although it may be hurtful and a difficult line to tread in terms of intervention/censorship. I left a previous forum as some smart arse who had worked out who I was made some comments relating to our then young children, it wasn't intended to be personal but it was unnecessary. Now I've gone totally off thread!

Thinking of starting a cointer-thrad Is it really that much for a croissant and coffee in Gail's. I'll have to sell a kidney. Over six quid for a pint at the Great Exhibition? I know cheaper pubs in the West End. And why is street food on North Cross Road 50 percent mote expensive than Pimlico market? Ho ho

So again blame consumers, apart from Louise, for buying product in unnecessary plastic bags. Playing devils avocate Worse still I'm watching Newsnight with some politicians sticking up for ex PM Johnson.

Difficulty is whether it be Poundland or other retailers people buy the plastic tat. You could widen the argument that we are very wasteful. That is an issue for society. You could just as well blame us as consumers

As posted on the Lounge thread - and acknowledged by Monty I'd get this shifted to the ED issues part of this site as it is a local matter. Dawson heights, and some of the views around Dawson heights would be good, Dawson Heights is very much a marmite issue, innovative social housing or a carbuncle - I'm the former but wouldn't like to be living in one of the roads parallel to this as it obstructs your view. Some of the street murals are cool, and the topiary on Beauval Road A must do is the house of dreams http://www.stephenwrightartist.com/houseofdreams.php Camberwell Old Cemetery on the boundary another good place [And agree on the other suggestions, including concrete house which I looked at for years in various stages of dilapidation and pleased to have an early viewing when restored - political warning think this may have been Southwark - yes it was! The illegal homage next door, by the developer who was happy for the concrete house to fall down, is not a suggestion]