HelBel65

Really? A bit more detail please...?

Understood! Back to my question about relying on my legs and trying to avoid the pesky hill!

Love to cycle or walk to Honor Oak but there's that pesky hill in the way! Anyway know a crafty route which might ease the pain?

Thanks everyone I suppose one option is the 63 the other way, to Honor Oak (I'm on Barry Road, near Upland) - I hadn't realised you could get to Highbury & Islington from there. I'm encouraged by your experience zeban, but it's a deadline I can't be late for, so I can't take risks with how long the 63 would take in heavy traffic. My problemn with trains is that you can never be sure of actually getting on one, they're so packed. Obviously ED to LB is the obvious way but only if you can actually force your way onto the train. I hate it. Helen

Hi all New to the area, and trying to avoid trains! I need to be in Islington at 10am tomorrow. If I picked up the 63 on Peckham Rye and sat on it all the way to the top of Farringdon Road (from where I would walk to Upper St) how long should I allow? Is this a barmy way to do this journey? Thanks! Helen

> Although not on LL, Barrys shop is fantastic, > opens late and does a huge range of things > including those gu/fru deSserts people mentioned > before. The staff are lovely and get to know you. > I'd vote for a Barrys onLL too ;) Sorry, not quite the point, but where's that please? <----- just moving to ED

Thank you, I will check it out!

I was gazing at that article in puzzlement until I realised it was 6 years old! It explains that Powerhouse closed because it wasn't making a profit and therefore couldn't pay the rates. That surely can't be blamed on supermarkets, coffee shops or estate agents. Despite the presence of M+S and Waitrose here now (AND Tesco AND Budgens) the butcher/fishmonger/greengrocer seem to be fine. They are always busy. Incidentally, Hornsey Pet and Garden Centre, mentioned in the article, is still here and thriving - I use it all the time (can anyone recommend a similar place on or near LL - I'll need one!)

This week I'm moving from Crouch End to East Dulwich. One of the things I will miss, and feel that LL lacks, is a high end supermarket. Crouch End saw a small Waitrose open just over a year ago - similar to Tesco Metro/Sainsburys Local, there are only 2 so far in London I think. All the usual high quality fresh produce you'd expect from Waitrose, with its share of ready meals of course, but which supermarket doesn't sell those? LL seems exactly the sort of neighbourhood in which one of these would thrive. None of the independent shops in Crouch End have suffered, from what I can see. Incidentally there is an M+S Food about 200 yards away, and somehow there seems room for everybody!

About to move into the area too. Note to self - don't ask here for any recommendations from the locals! Pearson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is it me, or are folk getting really lazy these > days? > > I mean, starting a thread asking people to tell > them what's good or where to go just smacks of > complete laziness to me. > Hey, why don't you tell us what you like and we'll > Google that for you and then post it back up here > so you can see. > > Or better still, just search yourself. Google > isn't that difficult to use. really. > > On a lighter note, welcome to ED!