HelBel65

Just posting the link, can't take any credit!

Bit more info here.....

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Sorry I missed this - those paintings are beautiful.

>>>Every steak i've ever had at a midweek, steak for a tenner type night, has been very disappointing.<<< Agree, but the Lordship one is IMHO a cut above those (see what I did there....) - which is why I posted.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'd love to see a good steak restaurant. As far as > I know there's nowhere to get a good steak in ED. The Lordship does a good one - Tuesday is steak night http://www.thelordshippub.co.uk/whats-on/

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Crouch End (the East Dulwich of the North!) has an > M&S and a Waitrose. > AND a Co-op AND a small Tesco, all within a few hundred yards! They all seem to jostle along, with the independents appearing to thrive too.

Well, yes but if you spend a few quid on a sandwich and a drink, they also donate 1p, correct? Across all their stores, I can see that mounting up quite fast. Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have just activated my "Sparks" card which I > picked up. M&S donate money to charity each time > it's used. Sounds good, eh? > > BUT > > They donate - wait for it - 1p per TRANSACTION. > Yes, people, even if you spend ?100 in there at > once, M&S will generously donate just 1p to > charity. > > That is just totally pathetic, in my opinion.

What a beauty. RIP. xx

Jeremy Wrote: > > Or Dawson's Heights if they're looking for a flat. Pretty much anywhere on the north side of Overhill Rd in fact

I've followed this debate with interest, and am still little on the fence though if I had to commit one way or the other, I'd be broadly in favour of M+S coming to LL (though given a choice it would have been Waitrose) One thing bothers me about the debate though, and that's calling a shop like this a 'destination'. I wouldn't bother with a M+S food hall unless it was actually on my journey (railway stations, or just outside, or high street ones if I was there anyway). Time will tell if my habits change once it opens, but would anyone else reading this make a special trip to LL purely for the M+S, whether by car, bus or on foot? I'm guessing not, like me, but if the answer is yes, isn't that good news for all the independent shops & cafes? I find the parking argument a bit erroneous tbh - if I visit LL by car, I park in one of the side streets or on LL itself and do my bit for the local economy but I'm soon gone again. Not quite the same I know, but I live near the shop at the top of Overhill Road - people frequently park across my driveway to use the shop, because it's convenient - it's annoying but the point is I know they'll be gone in a few minutes. The bigger picture is what matters to me I suppose.

Friends of mine on Friern were promised by Virgin in April, after months of intermittent internet, that the issue would be fixed by May 18. It wasn't, so they've dumped them. Hopeless.

Thanks, yes, that had already been pointed out!

Oops sorry!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/19/butchers-very-honest-job-advert-says-no-to-drama-queens-and-scru/

Jeremy's point is quite clear to me DF, and I agree - though I love all the predictable stuff found on LL too http://www.indianfoodforever.com/regional-cooking.html DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm not trying to make a point... > > But you said 'Keep up with the times..' and then > suggest 'Authentic Reginal' recipes.. > > 'Authentic Reginal' dishes are by definition old > recipes going back decades.. > > You have lost ME. > > Foxy

Well, yes. Ok, when I say it works for me, it's been a success rate of around 75%. Of the other 25%, the less said the better ;-) P.O.U.S.theWonderCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If only that worked in all cases...

Life has taught me that a) I can get unreasonably prickly about stuff like building work or noise next door b) I get much less unreasonably prickly if I can put a name and a face to above annoyances a + b = c) I always introduce myself and offer a smile and a glass of something. Works for me :)

I've heard of that happening a lot and always find it odd - if I saw something which I thought was overpriced, I would just make a lower offer. Do people generally not tend to do that? Calsug Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also to add to my comment above to make sure I > don't sound high and mighty, I fell for the high > valuation trick from an estate agent who I won't > name, ultimately I wasted 7 months, had the hassle > of tidying the house every weekend and trying to > keep out of my own flat for that period etc... > Took it off the market for a few months and put it > back on at let's say a more aggressive / realistic > price and it sold for asking price within 2 > weeks...

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Make a complaint at the time either to the staff > or the family directly. Awkward convos when I'm out having fun aren't really my thing. Was just interested in others' thoughts really.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tbh if I ran a business and I had regular > customers in (be they family, couples or even > individuals), I might think twice about pulling > them up on something like this. I'd rather lose > the custom of some irregular visitors over well > paying regulars who I know will be back to spend > again. Harsh, but true (if that's the case). > > Louisa. Yes, I did wonder if this was the case and of course I can understand that. Just a shame staff had to choose.....my friends and I are big spenders when in the mood! http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/drink/smileys-drinking-beer.gif

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > HelBel65 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Fair enough, but this was 2 kids shouting at > the > > tops of their voices in a quiet > space....difficult > > to miss... > > > > Maybe I'm being naive but I would expect > > restaurant management to want their customers > to > > be happy, not just with the food but with the > > surroundings too, and therefore make it their > > business to notice when all is not well. > > > Possible they're regular customers and good > spenders so management don't want to upset them? I > have no idea of course, but there could be any > number of perspectives that differed from yours in > this situation. True. Just a shame that the idea of a quiet word could potentially cause that level of offence.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But in the UK.. > despite the undeniable shift L talks about... I > think we still expect restaurants to be adult > environments after 7:30 or so. By and large I would probably agree, but actually don't feel that strongly unless the behaviour and noise level affects everyone else. That's plain selfish, and bad parenting IMO. The adults KidKruger encountered the other night were probably brought up similarly ;-) There was no question that the staff knew we were being disturbed, I caught their eye enough times. A quiet word from them would seem the obvious thing to me. They do run the place after all, and it would nicely de-personalise an awkward situation between fellow diners.

Fair enough, but this was 2 kids shouting at the tops of their voices in a quiet space....difficult to miss... Maybe I'm being naive but I would expect restaurant management to want their customers to be happy, not just with the food but with the surroundings too, and therefore make it their business to notice when all is not well.

Agree with some of that Louisa, particularly the entitled attitude of some parents, but this isn't intended as a debate on whether kids should be out after a certain time, or taken to certain establishments. That's been done many times (and some of my best friends are parents ;-)) Well behaved kids are welcome wherever and whenever, as far as I'm concerned. Was just surprised that the restaurant's approach was a shrug of the shoulder and an 'it's your problem' attitude, even when I mentioned that my friends were unlikely to return. The real fault however, lay with the parents IMHO.