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Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's tricky. Especially if you are not a parent > yourself. Talking loudly, that is subjective. I'm not a parent and nor are my friends which almost certainly influences our response to those situations, admittedly. But this was not talking, it was shouting and screaming. KidKruger Wrote: -------------------------------------------------------- > There was a table of 3, 2 men and 1 woman, sat a couple of tables away. They'd obviously had a few drinks and their conversation was frequently loud with huge guffaw outbursts. For long periods my friends and I had to halt our chats and wait to continue. > Is noise in a restaurant from children less valid than noise from adults ? > If not, then is your problem actually with kids rather than noise / distraction levels ? > i.e. If you'd had to stop your conversation because of adults, would you have started a thread about adults in restaurants ? Well there's a difference isn't there - the people you describe sound rather insensitive and annoying, but as adults were entirely in control of their own behaviour. They chose to behave like that - we all do, now and again. Small children don't know any better so they (and their restaurant neighbours) are entirely dependent on their parents to make sure their behaviour isn't impacting negatively on anyone else. That didn't happen in this case. So, to reiterate, the noise was the problem for us, not their presence there. Seen and not heard? Sometimes, yes please! :) Blah Blah - Hope you have a great time - I have no doubt everyone will be impeccably behaved! ;-)

I certainly don't have a problem with kids in restaurants per se - my issue was with the noise and the lack of effort by the parents.

edhistory Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Should have spoken to/with the parents while you > had the chance? Really? How is that preferable to the waiters doing it? Just seems unnecessarily awkward to me.

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,1627990

A thread on the main board made me decide to post here on a similar subject, one I know has been debated at length on the EDF but each situation differs. Went for a spontaneous Friday night curry last week, to one of our popular local establishments. Three of us rocked up around 6.30pm, the place was quiet. 3 tables away was a family, 2 adults, 2 kids of around 4 years old. Didn't think anything at first but gradually the kids got more & more vocal. Tired, I guess. It got to the point that we kept having to stop our conversation because of the noise. It was 8pm by this point. What really struck me was the lack of any real effort by the parents to keep the noise down, given that this was now 8pm on a Friday night in an adult environment. There was the odd ineffectual 'shhh' but that was about it. When they left shortly after 8, I spoke to one of the waiters (the manager, I was told, had gone out) I said that our evening had been badly interrupted by the noise, and asked if they (the staff) had noticed it. He said no, and that I should have complained at the time. I pointed out that this would have been impossible to do discreetly given where we were sitting, and would therefore have been embarrassing all round. He just shrugged. I found this rather odd. My feeling is that the establishment concerned should be aware of awkward situations and deal with them tactfully, rather than waiting for complaints. I personally like this restaurant enough not to let one incident put me off, but the 2 friends I was with won't be going back, which just seems like an unnecessary shame all round. Would be curious to know what others think.

Newest guidelines suggest a couple of days off per week Possibly a less depressing approach? (for me anyway!) http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/drinkers-are-going-to-be-advised-to-cut-back-on-alcohol-for-at-least-two-days-a-week-a6792666.html

rabbitears Wrote: > They're fit, then. Presumably they rob salad > delivery drivers six days a week and then rob a > pizza delivery driver robbery on their cheat day. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/giggle.gif

Don't think Admin agrees with you Louisa..... http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?30,1609711,1610289#msg-1610289 Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Don't you just love it when a certain person has > been caught red handed and tries the "not be guv" > approach! Well done foxy. > > http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?3 > 0,1609711,1609774#msg-1609774 > > Louisa.

Interesting! http://www.urban75.org/brixton/features/ruskin-park.html

Used this company last year, still looking really good. Measured up first and it all fitted pretty well. Would suggest definitely a 2 person job, and to follow the instructions carefully, something I'm not usually fond of....was pretty straightforward though. Think a whole bay window was about ?60. Thinking of ordering again for the little window over the front door, so thanks for the reminder! They even do a custom house number. Good luck! http://www.abodewindowfilms.co.uk/acatalog/Frosted_Window_Film.html http://www.abodewindowfilms.co.uk/acatalog/house-and-door-numbers.html

http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/motors/crunch-day-looms-over-traffic-experiment-a3107976.html

Oh, and he left a pile of his own organic apples for me. Lovely!

Saied has been over to prune the fruit trees he planted for me 2 years ago. They produced so much fruit this year despite still being so young, I'm sure this is because as a specialist he chose each tree carefully. His follow up care has been been most helpful. Friendly and reliable as always.

>>>>>>This junction is just the latest in their grand plan to drive us all insane<<<<<< It would appear to be working in some cases!

Just seen this dumped outside 77 Overhill, if any good? Be quick!

Rockets Wrote: > > Also tonight I realised they had shut Padfield > Road by putting three of the largest plant pots > ever seen across the road. It begs the question > why. To make life even more miserable for drivers than it already is, of course. There's actually just enough space to drive past those massive plant pots, by mounting the pavement to the side. I've seen someone do it and am building up to having a go myself!

Signed..

lozc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What / who do you consider a resident James? > > One of the major problems of this sort of > 'localism' in London is that with boroughs so > close together, decisions made supposedly for the > benefit of one groups of residents can have > serious consequences on residents of another > borough who get no say in the matter. > > Even if Lambeth really believe it is appropriate, > setting this up when there are major roadworks at > Oval, Vauxhall and Elephant, not to mention > significant public transport problems on national > rail thanks to the London Bridge / Thameslink > works, smacks of gross incompetence at best. Exactly.

Hoopoedi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Fascinating article, ChainshotCannon, thanks for > that. I live "in the shadow" of Dawson Heights > and love the view - especially at dusk - from the > metal seats at the top of the grassy slope - > unbeatable. Now I shall have more respect for > what went on underneath as well! Same here!

......."and also some of the fence panels were overgrown with trailing vegetation making them more difficult to safely handle." Eh? Ridiculous.

Friend of mine booked a collection of some old carpet. It wasn't collected, and the message she got was it was 'too heavy'. She had hoiked the whole lot down from the attic by herself. Pathetic!

Has anyone actually found a half reliable driving route to and from Vauxhall since this closure? Thought I was onto a winner yesterday, left from Akerman into Lilford towards Coldharbour only to find Lilford closed to cars towards the end! Everyone was ignoring the sign, so I did too but would prefer not to take that risk every day....

Eh? How can they close a road without actually, er, closing the road? I have seen the signs, and the road open as normal. So have assumed the signs are incorrect, or premature, and ignored them. H

Yes. The reason I'm asking is that everything is normal currently despite the closure warnings.....so a start date would be helpful.