I think really Thomas is trying it all out. A bit like being a Mod or a Skinhead way back when. You know, you get the outfits, pose about a bit, say what others say. I think he's feeling his way as he goes along, copying the hardcore AR/AV lot verbatim. A kind of 'that sounds about right' stance but without the personal or intellectual vigour to really challenge the thought police that frequent those groups. As TM said himself, it was the Jamie Oliver programme on battery/farmed chicken gassing that put him off. If it took a TV chef to give him a reality check, really, was he that naive before that? He must have had a fairly sheltered upbringing too, my kids have known how animals are slaughtered for ages and the eldest isn't even a teenager yet. And as a child I used to sit on the church wall watching the pigs be slaughtered on a Sunday morning. It's what happens in the country side. Honest question Thomas, roughly how old are you ? NETTE