Otta

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is no NEED to eat on the go, unless you have > a blood sugar problem. There is only DESIRE to do > so. Incorrect. Some people have jobs where they are on the go all day, going from apointment to appointment. No one has the "desire" to eat on the bus, who the hell would choose the bus as an ideal place for a snack? Some people grab a bite between appoontments because they need to eat, end of.

Cedges Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Some of us have lives, busy lives and sometimes > busy people have to eat on the bus, or when they > are rushing from one appointment to the other. > Sometimes some people have medical issues and need > to eat at certain times of the day, sometimes that > time is when you are on the bus. Or train. The OP > needs to hop off their sanctimonious high horse > and live in the real world. > > Tackling a litter problem... Now that's a whole > different matter. ^^^ This. People chucking litter on the floor of the bus, and / or putting their feet on seats is anti social, and should be tackled. But a blanket ban on eating is ridiculous.

I have heard it suggested that the whole fox hunting thing is a bit of a ruse to distract people from all the other stuff the government are up to. And judging by social media it's working today extent.

I was never aiming anything at you in particular. Apologies.

"Freedome to hunt" is just such a shit phrase to use. Like their human rights are being abused by not letting them chase a fox on horseback, If we all have the freedom to hunt, lets go after him with a spear.

Just to clarify, I think cake / well wishes / putting forward for an MBE are all great ideas. I don't think a party or going in to local businesses trying to blag free meals is such a good idea. If I was the chap in question, I'd feel a bit uncomfortable about that sort of thing. But that's just my opinion.

Well unless she's left and come back, Ms Brooks must have been there over 30 years by now.

I know, I read through a lot of it yesterday.

To be fair, it's cyclist who isn't letting this one die.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > malumbu - on a similar note, Staples Corner.. > named after the old Staples bed factory. And Cobb's Corner, Sydenham. Named after Cobb's Department Store. http://sydenhamforesthillhistory.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/cobbs-department-store-sydenham.html

What RD said.

miga Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta, I know, but there's a lot of negativity > about how places like Camden and Soho aren't the > hubs of youth culture they once were. You're > right, luxury flats being built near existing > nightlife and causing that nightlife to be shut is > a well documented issue. I was providing an > alternative, more positive, view, that for the > creation of vibrant youth culture all that's > required is a creative youth with talent and a > work ethic, and it will find a way. You have no > idea how much it hurts me to have to be the > positive one. Our earlier posts were crossed so I hadn't seen your post which is indeed a positive thing. I must admit when our band rehearsed recently in Peckham on a Friday night, I did find myself wishing I had some money and no kids to get home to as I made my way to the bus stop past lots of interesting looking stuff happening.

Yep Mayow is my guess. It's the little fountain thing that gives it away (assuming it's the same one). Wells Park is my favourite in Sydenham.

I just googled "live music suffers at the hands of gentrification" and there are articles about Sydney, SanFrancisco, New Yprk, Austin and many more. Young people will (probably) always find a place for music and fun and art. I just think that these places are going to be looking outwards rather than in to the centres of cities.

maxxi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Well for what it's worth I think Louisa is spot > > on. This isn't her talking about East Dulwich, > > this is London and if you show her thread to > any > > long standing Soho resident I think they'd say > > it's bang on. > > > Yes but they would also have said it when the PR > types in waxed Doc Martins and black 501s moved in > to Soho 30 years ago. > > It was said in Borough (re-branded as Bankside) > before the emergence of Borough 'Farmer's' Market > some 20 years back, > > Said when they redeveloped the old dock warehouses > into yuppie lego-apartments 30 years ago, > > Going further back - it was said when the old > slums were knocked down and people were moved to > New Towns in the 1960s-70s. Yeah you're totally right, I've never argued that places don't change constantly. A lot of my yoof was around New Cross / Deptford, and those places have changed a lot since then. But, when long standing places disappear and are replaced by dull corporate nightmares, it does get a bit miserable.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > steveo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It's not just London > > > > > http://www.spectator.co.uk/spectator-life/spectato > > > > r-life-life/9477362/how-the-big-apple-lost-its-bit > > > e/ > > I can't help wondering if this isn't just old > people saying 'it's not as good as it was in my > day'. Scenes move on, fashions and areas change. > I'm sure if you're a young thing living in New > York, it's just as full of danger, wonder and > excitement as that journo remembers it being 'back > in the day', although the 'hip' places won't be > the same ones he visited, nor the neighbourhoods. When it comes to nightlife with loud music (live or not), this really is happening in cities across the world. It's not just about where people can afford to live, it's also about developers building their souless blocks everywhere, and clubs and venues being closed down.

Goose Green squatters thread (classic) http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,447811,page=1

Thats's lovely for the kids. People are allowed to find it horrid though, doesn't make them chail murderers. Personally I have no idea where this tree is. From memory the squatters were actually a bunch of middle class kids playing at being alternitive. Not sure there was any actual housing need involved.

What's the live music scene in Camden like these days? And I don't mean the round house, I mean all the pubs, are they still banging?

Not writing it off, but as you say, the energy has moved out to East London. How long before it moves out of London all together because the people that make it happen just can't afford to live here? I don't want to be a doom monger, but development is tearing down anything slightly shabby, and slightly shabby places tend to be where the interesting stuff happens.

I left way back in 1989 and I remember Ms Brookes very well, she was my older sister's class teacher, and taught my class occasionally. Acouple of the other names (Bosman and Pett) are ringing bells, but not sure.

I'm with Jeremy. There's also the fact you agree a price before you set off in a mini cab, so no watching in horror as the meter ticks up and up.

And uncleglen, in the past I've assumed you were partaking in a spot of trolling/flaming, but you really are a deeply unpleasant cunt.

Well for what it's worth I think Louisa is spot on. This isn't her talking about East Dulwich, this is London and if you show her thread to any long standing Soho resident I think they'd say it's bang on.

I like quite a few ales, Late Knights do some fab ones. But I don't resort to lager, I bloody love lager, and I'm not too cool to admit it. People should be able to choose the things they like be it beer, food, bands, or whatever without being told that something else is better. Especially when a lot of the muppets waxing lyrical about ales don't come across as entirely believable, but more just drinking it because it's the in thing right now.