I've just moved to Penge this week. We were renting a 30 bed semi detatched in Sydenham, and have moved in to an ex council flat in Queen Adelaide Court (estate just by Penge East). It does feel a bit "poorer", but it doesn't feel unsafe or anything like that, and you do get the impression that changes are afoot. And lets not forget, teenagers have been stabbed to death in ED, we live in London, crime happens. The Sainsbury's is quite big, and it's great that there's a Lidl. The High Street could be better, but equally I hope the KFC stays even if lots of little indie places open! I've yet to sample the pubs, but popped in to the weatherspoons for a quick bite yesterday (kitchen still in chaos at home), and would agree that as wetherspoons go, this is a nice one. I'm feeling quite unsettled at the moment because I hate moving and was happy in Sydenham, but I think I will be happy in Penge once we've got the flat sorted.