Wow, I go away for the day and it all kicks off. PD, I honestly don't think you can compare "we hate man u, we hate man u" (or any other club) with racial hatred, they're not even in the same ball park. Quids probably shouldn't have stooped to calling you a name, but you did basically suggest he was a bit racist, and I'd probably call someone the same thing if they called me a racist. What Quids called "hatred" was basically old skool fan rivalry. For example, Arsenal hate Spurs, Spurs hate Arsenal, this is an old local rivalry. Most fans today probably don't live locally, but will still say they hate each other. Dig deeper, and there is no actual hatred from most of the fans except a few hard core nutters, but it's just a throw away word in this context. "I fuckin hate Arsenal/Spurs/Liverpool/Man U...". Hating someone for the colour of their skin / the country they were born in is not even similar.