Otta

No one except Grok has said anything to suggest that what is reported in the OP is in any way okay. I think that needs to be made very clear before this turns in to a "I'm more worthy than you" competition. And Grok is just Grok, so not really worth responding to. But the point is that whether we have 5 pages of people saying how terrible this all is, or 5 pages of discussion about child abuse in different cultures, it makes ZERO difference to the child described in the OP.

Wish I'd been there, sounds wicked.

And when people say "I've talked to loads of people that would post on here but don't", I am always quite sceptical.

To be fair, absolutely nothing that was written after the OP (whatever it was) would have made a blind bit of difference to thie welfare of this child. The OP called the police, then they started this thread to make people aware. In terms of "doing something" that's all that could be done.

I've got 1 point (from Chelsea),

Bloody Liverpool.

But really I was just trying to show how ridiculous this thread has become.

How do you know? Unless you're him you don't.

IF winger were to announce he was to retire, I could see Arsenal as the best fit for Pep. And he wouldn't mind splashing a bit more cash to top off what they already have.

Hope the man doesn't see this thread and get angry, and beat his child for making him look bad in public. That would be very unfortunate.

Late winner too wasn't it?

I've been thinking the little wolf, but not sure. Either way he's full of shit.

Townleygreen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta, you DO have to apply - for one, you have to > send in your photo! > > Alice, yes but you have to pay (only ?20 a year > though!) for the over 60s Oyster until you qualify > for Freedom Pass at 66 or whatever the age is now. Of course you have to send your photo and fill in a form, but unless things have changed, you will automatically receive a letter telling you you're eligible, and most people will take it because it's there. My point is, make people have to actively go and seek it, that way those that don't really need it probably wouldn't bother.

Not that I care about Chelsea, or particularly care about Mourinho. But I DO think his players stopped playing for him, and when fans are paying to watch you, and you're being paid a kings ransom, that is inexcusable.

I just imagine a couple of those players suddenly remembering that they actually know how to play football quite well.

When talking about the very specific issue of beating children, or indeed FGM, yes you can expect people to behave in a way that the law in the country they live in would expect. That's pretty different from expecting people to just leave their culture behind and fit in with "our" ways. As well I am sure you realise. Unless you're a complete idiot.

Anyone else going for a convincing Chelsea win?

All well and good, so why are they still having to pay him? Surely they could have just given him a one off payment then said goodbye for good.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > its about humanity - people love their children > the same the world over - why anyone thinks > hitting them is a good way to demonstrate love is > beyond me. I very much doubt that anyone thinks that hitting their kids is demonstrating love. But some cultures are A LOT harsher to their kids than we are. But in terms of abuse and sick people hurting kids, look at the human pond scum that hurt and killed Peter Connelly (baby P), white English home grown scum.

binkylilyput Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't see how that could be considered a big > leap. If people had taken note of the signs and > done something about it as cinders has then > suffering could have been stopped and her death > prevented. Totally different set of circumstances. The point is that a lot of abusers probably appear like ideal parents when out in public. Anyway, the OP has now told us that the bloke has a London accent, so the whole cultural argument is irrelevant (although strongly disagree with Huggers that it's all bollocks - and I am from a social care background). cinders Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There was nothing to suggest this > was anything to do with culture and to be honest > can we just focus on finding this bastard instead > of even insinuating there may be a good reason for > it. 1. NO ONE has even remotely insinuated that there is a "good reason" for this behaviour. 2. You've called the police, and you've written your OP. Unless you're thinking of forming some sort of search party*, there is nothing more to be done here. People are just discussing the subject. * Please don't do that.

I'm with MickMack. BUT Some of you are not reading Penguin68's post properly. It is not suggesting that this is in any way okay, just that somoeone from a different culture may not be clued up on how we do things here. They need to get clued up obviously, and that is something which probably needs looking at (education for the parents). But drawing comparrisons top what has been described in the OP (which is awful and unacceptable) to what was done to Victoria Climbie is a pretty bloody big leap. And those that practice FGM probably couldn't give a shit what our laws say about it.

I don't get why Spurs would axe someone yet still pay them. If you're paying him don't axe him, then you can fine him for not being fit and stuff like that.

You old cynic you.

Yep, proper old fashioned trolling.

To be fair, Cheryl Cole can sing too. She's no Karen Carpenter, but she's not entirely without talent.