StraferJack

you do talk rot sometimes H mobs have existed long before current communications - see my previous post and as for people being targeted, at the moment the person doing the targeting on here is you, not anyone else

Just for perspective, I know of a global bank moving outside zone 1 in London Roughly 80% of the workforce appear to view this as a reason to leave Several people on 3 figure salaries expect someone else to pick up the extra tube costs or else they will leave for that reason alone I know who I have more sympathy with

why would you wonder that silverfox? if they have jobs and paid for themselves you will ask what they are protesting about and if they don't have jobs you can dismiss them as feckless why start another thread on what is essentially the same topic

I partly with Jeremy here but mostly not For better or worse, an album captures a moment in time in the artist?s life. Most of the albums that I love have flaws , but I love them because they are an entity and not a collection of bits (I accept that many albums are exactly that from an artists POV mind you ? a collection of bits) But even then there will be songs I skip (has anyone who likes Ziggy Stardust for example, EVER needed ?It ain?t easy? at the end of side 1?)

It needs to be said that consumers have to hold their hands up for the part they played in this - they did want all of those things and gorged themselves when available But as I've said before - that always has been the case. It's why certain institutions were given the keys to the cake-tin. It was their job to say no. Instead they abdicated responsibility because it made more money to say yes So we consumers - never trust us. We are two-face liers. Always have been and always will be. But when we collectively put mechanisms in place they should be accountable (no good a junkie giving his money to a dealer to avoid having money for drugs)

It's what Huguenot seems to be saying silverfox, but he's apparently saying that it's driving intolerance of people who do choose to wear poppies. Which is just... weird New media probably plays a part in facilitating things but the emotion has to be there McCarthyism, yellow ribbons in US, grief at Diana's wedding - all preceeded new media. The Diana thing in particular still troubles me to this day

be fair henry, some of those ARE more anti-social than others You could make any list of 8 things and have a sizeable group of people anywhere be bothered by them

didn't Hisar used to be run by an Irish couple?

I'm sorry, you are saying poopy WEARERS are under attack H? Is that what you are saying or have I missed something?

so we're talking specifically about the nephew in question? Fair enough and good if you don't judge people for not wearing them but you do accept that many people do judge others, right? And that that judgement is becoming more public and more shrill? I'm curious as to why it's becoming more that way

* very high voice * "Danny Kelly!"

like yellow ribbons in America around Gulf War 1 better have one outside your house lest ye be branded a communist Or flag burning. "my daddy died in korea for that flag....!" "what a coincidence, mine was made in Korea" David, I think there IS something larger and nastier at play here Rememberance is a small, gentle, private thing. Doing it nationally on Rememberance Day is a special day for publicly remembering But beyond that it's beginning to get a little bit more McCarthyite every year "So how is the nephew going to show his respect?" well how do nephews/neices/populations the world over honour their dead? I bet they don't make the same song and dance over poppies. A decade ago it wasn't a big deal wether you did or not but it was still possible to donate and remember the dead - but each year the calls get a bit more shrill But because the underlying cause is so worthy (in it's positive sense, not sneery sense) it's deemed ok to berate people

sometimes people scare me - to live in the area and not even notice a shop like that, in a location plum central.... lah de dah all you like but I think it says more about you than it does the shop

And there is more than enough to bash FIFA with, so I'm fine with that But I do think it's more than that - look at Huguenot's postings on the Poppy thread in the DR. He wouldn't know who/what FIFA was if you asked him to take a penalty with Diana Ross in goal, but he knows how to get in a froth about poppies

KK - I've made the same mistake many a time, but Otto Otta (more confusingly they are both contributing to this thread)

The english football writers are really going to town on this You don't have to like ANYTHING FIFA/UEFA does to see the problems if poppies were allowed (I'm also getting bothered by the notion that honouring the dead is somehow uniquely "British" and other countries wouldn't understand) It was fair enough to ask, but as it's not happening, PLEASE move on people

Blimey sir, good response. Fair play

And I thought I was being satirical not malicious. I've tried posting reasonably, but the behaviour of one specific individual appears to be reaching some kind of break-down level, and I think James barber is being unfairly treated But points well made loz

and remember people gsirret has started a petition thread so you don't get confused And to make sure you don't get condused he's reminding you here as well!! And if YOU don't sign up he will look foolish - as well as being a 2 dimensional, one-note character, he will be a DEFEATED 2 dimensional, one-note character. He has told the council that hardly anyone wants this and only 200 of you are supporting him!!! Come on people!!! As I've said many a time, I'm against the CPZ but this guy and a few of his buds have made me hopeful it will go through. I'll be able to tell where he lives by the black cloud above his house

you couldn't make this up There isn't a word of that sentence that doesn't make my skin crawl. Of all the problems kids will encounter in life, being in an environment where people socialise and include the childen won't be one of them If you would rather your child wasn't in that environment that's a perfectly fine position to take and you are free to do what you want. But to get all sniffy about other people and to generate a fear about "welfare of the kids" = Mary Whitehouse levels of judgement

what about those periods immediately prior to the periods of QE/government intervention then? All stable and reliable there are they? I think the volatility came first THEN the government intervention, no?

precisely KK so where do you draw the line? In your argument "we'd be compromised" is a nonsense because in the event of a problem the parents in question would do what parents who don't drive would do - call a cab or an ambulance. What's the problem?

it's clear is it? i would suggest that it isn't anything of the kind and is merely you projecting

won't someone think of the CHILDREN??? "It's interesting to me how not one parent has said "yeah you now what I never looked at it like that, what if an accident did occur and we needed to get to hospital or drive - we'd be compromised". " so by that logic, parents who don't have a car, regardless of alcohol consumption, are putting their children at risk?

You would argue, but it would be a poor one "Had the poppy appeal never been made, it's unlikely those chaps would have ever got their opinion heard. " their opinion would have been different and not needed to be said if it wasn't for the poppy appeal in it's current form - fallacious argument